Hi everyone,
We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where representatives from each working group met in person to continue bringing nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event also brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of the core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming weeks; in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on commons [2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining their draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events from Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on social media since March of this year. They had also begun identifying overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint for the communities’ information.
At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures would need to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what became clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a coherent and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that underpin the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will continue so as to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking into options for another round of community input.
I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to achieve our initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on the core team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted an enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the event, and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all their effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level of work and dedication every single working group member has put into getting the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape the future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate into the overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all as soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel free to reach out to me.
Best regards, Nicole
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen... [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Spr... [3] https://twitter.com/search?q=%23hs2030 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
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On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 10:27 AM Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hi everyone,
We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where representatives from each working group met in person to continue bringing nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event also brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of the core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming weeks; in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on commons [2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining their draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events from Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on social media since March of this year. They had also begun identifying overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint for the communities’ information.
At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures would need to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what became clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a coherent and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that underpin the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will continue so as to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking into options for another round of community input.
I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to achieve our initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on the core team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted an enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the event, and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all their effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level of work and dedication every single working group member has put into getting the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape the future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate into the overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all as soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel free to reach out to me.
Best regards, Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen... [2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Spr... [3] https://twitter.com/search?q=%23hs2030 [4]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
-- Nicole Ebber Adviser International Relations Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
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" A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint for the communities’ information." - It's quite unclear what are we supposed to do with this, since those recommendations most probably became outdated in the course of the Tunis meetings in the days following their publication. Are we supposed to do anything at all with them?
Best, Paulo
Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de escreveu no dia segunda, 30/09/2019 à(s) 17:27:
Hi everyone,
We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where representatives from each working group met in person to continue bringing nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event also brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of the core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming weeks; in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on commons [2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining their draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events from Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on social media since March of this year. They had also begun identifying overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint for the communities’ information.
At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures would need to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what became clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a coherent and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that underpin the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will continue so as to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking into options for another round of community input.
I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to achieve our initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on the core team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted an enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the event, and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all their effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level of work and dedication every single working group member has put into getting the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape the future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate into the overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all as soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel free to reach out to me.
Best regards, Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen... [2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Spr... [3] https://twitter.com/search?q=%23hs2030 [4]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
-- Nicole Ebber Adviser International Relations Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Paulo,
There is nothing more for us to do, since community input closed on the 15 September. The community will next be consulted on the implementation of the recommendations after they are finally agreed.
Henry
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 18:08, Paulo Santos Perneta paulosperneta@gmail.com wrote:
" A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint for the communities’ information." - It's quite unclear what are we supposed to do with this, since those recommendations most probably became outdated in the course of the Tunis meetings in the days following their publication. Are we supposed to do anything at all with them?
Best, Paulo
Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de escreveu no dia segunda, 30/09/2019 à(s) 17:27:
Hi everyone,
We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where representatives from each working group met in person to continue bringing nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event also brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of the core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming weeks; in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on commons [2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining their draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events from Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on social media since March of this year. They had also begun identifying overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint for the communities’ information.
At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures would need to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what became clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a coherent and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that underpin the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will continue so as to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking into options for another round of community input.
I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to achieve our initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on the core team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted an enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the event, and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all their effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level of work and dedication every single working group member has put into getting the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape the future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate into the overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all as soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel free to reach out to me.
Best regards, Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen... [2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Spr... [3] https://twitter.com/search?q=%23hs2030 [4]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
-- Nicole Ebber Adviser International Relations Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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I'm not sure I could design a process more guaranteed to result in complete resistance from the community if I tried. It's gobsmacking that far more effort was made on putting together a nice little junket to Tunisia than any sort of effort to seek community-buy-in. The working groups had next-to-no direct interaction with any of the community's objections to the proposals. But again, a trip to Tunis is a lot more fun than remedying risk assessments with howlers like (I'm paraphrasing) "some people might not like it" or "people can just leave the project."
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 10:42 AM Henry Wood henry.wood.1869@gmail.com wrote:
Paulo,
There is nothing more for us to do, since community input closed on the 15 September. The community will next be consulted on the implementation of the recommendations after they are finally agreed.
Henry
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 18:08, Paulo Santos Perneta paulosperneta@gmail.com wrote:
" A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint for the communities’ information." - It's quite unclear what are we supposed
to
do with this, since those recommendations most probably became outdated
in
the course of the Tunis meetings in the days following their publication. Are we supposed to do anything at all with them?
Best, Paulo
Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de escreveu no dia segunda, 30/09/2019 à(s) 17:27:
Hi everyone,
We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where representatives from each working group met in person to continue
bringing
nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event
also
brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and
Wikimedia
Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of the core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming
weeks;
in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on
commons
[2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining
their
draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events
from
Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on social media since March of this year. They had also begun identifying overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second
iteration of
draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint
for
the communities’ information.
At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures would
need
to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what
became
clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a
coherent
and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that
underpin
the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will continue
so as
to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking
into
options for another round of community input.
I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to achieve
our
initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on the
core
team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted an enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the
event,
and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all their effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level of work and dedication every single working group member has put into
getting
the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape
the
future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate into
the
overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all as soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel
free
to reach out to me.
Best regards, Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
[2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Spr...
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
-- Nicole Ebber Adviser International Relations Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der
Menschheit
teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter
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Hello,
I hope that we can be candid about problems without becoming deeply cynical. I think that there are many problems in WMF, but I also don't want to demoralize good WMF board members, staff, or contractors (imagine what would happen if the good ones all quit) or any strategy working group contributors who consistently make sincere and competent efforts to support the community. I'm willing to criticize, to ban, or to fire people, and to cut budgets, but I try not to be excessively harsh or to have unrealistic expectations. The strategy process is complicated and messy, and I am hoping that some good comes from it regardless of the problems.
Regarding conference travel, while I don't know what happened at this particular conference, when I attended the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin a few years ago it was not a vacation. I paid for an extra day before the conference began for tourist activities and to adjust to the time zone, and I'm glad that I had the extra day. The conference itself overall was very interesting, and I think that the vast majority of us who were there tried to make good use of the time. My guess is that there were some serious discussions at the strategy meeting.
Hi Henry,
Apparently things have changed since then: " *The timeline will shift and we are looking into options for another round of community input.*" (Nicole)
These are promising news from the core team, I hope this new round of community input goes forward.
Best, Paulo
Henry Wood henry.wood.1869@gmail.com escreveu no dia quarta, 2/10/2019 à(s) 15:42:
Paulo,
There is nothing more for us to do, since community input closed on the 15 September. The community will next be consulted on the implementation of the recommendations after they are finally agreed.
Henry
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 18:08, Paulo Santos Perneta paulosperneta@gmail.com wrote:
" A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint for the communities’ information." - It's quite unclear what are we supposed
to
do with this, since those recommendations most probably became outdated
in
the course of the Tunis meetings in the days following their publication. Are we supposed to do anything at all with them?
Best, Paulo
Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de escreveu no dia segunda, 30/09/2019 à(s) 17:27:
Hi everyone,
We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where representatives from each working group met in person to continue
bringing
nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event
also
brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and
Wikimedia
Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of the core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming
weeks;
in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on
commons
[2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining
their
draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events
from
Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on social media since March of this year. They had also begun identifying overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second
iteration of
draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint
for
the communities’ information.
At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures would
need
to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what
became
clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a
coherent
and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that
underpin
the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will continue
so as
to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking
into
options for another round of community input.
I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to achieve
our
initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on the
core
team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted an enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the
event,
and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all their effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level of work and dedication every single working group member has put into
getting
the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape
the
future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate into
the
overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all as soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel
free
to reach out to me.
Best regards, Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
[2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Spr...
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
-- Nicole Ebber Adviser International Relations Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der
Menschheit
teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter
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Dear Nicole, Thank you for the explanation. Maybe some more context on Meta Wiki might make sense? I am looking forward to see the final results. Kind regards Ziko
Am Di., 1. Okt. 2019 um 19:08 Uhr schrieb Paulo Santos Perneta < paulosperneta@gmail.com>:
" A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint for the communities’ information." - It's quite unclear what are we supposed to do with this, since those recommendations most probably became outdated in the course of the Tunis meetings in the days following their publication. Are we supposed to do anything at all with them?
Best, Paulo
Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de escreveu no dia segunda, 30/09/2019 à(s) 17:27:
Hi everyone,
We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where representatives from each working group met in person to continue
bringing
nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event also brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and
Wikimedia
Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of the core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming
weeks;
in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on commons [2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining
their
draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events from Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on social media since March of this year. They had also begun identifying overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second iteration
of
draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint
for
the communities’ information.
At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures would
need
to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what became clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a coherent and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that
underpin
the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will continue so
as
to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking
into
options for another round of community input.
I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to achieve
our
initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on the
core
team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted an enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the
event,
and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all their effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level of work and dedication every single working group member has put into
getting
the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape the future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate into the overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all as soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel free to reach out to me.
Best regards, Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
[2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Spr...
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
-- Nicole Ebber Adviser International Relations Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der
Menschheit
teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
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Dear Paulo and Ziko,
Thanks for your interest and your questions.
Regarding the second iteration of the recommendations: We posted them for your information, to provide insights into how different strands of input have been progressed so far. We are not in a structured open consultation phase at the moment, but comments are of course always welcome on the talk pages, will be monitored, summarized and fed back to the Working Groups.
Ziko, yes, as we wrote on the meta page, an extended report will be shared soon.
Regards, Nicole
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 23:40, Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Nicole, Thank you for the explanation. Maybe some more context on Meta Wiki might make sense? I am looking forward to see the final results. Kind regards Ziko
Am Di., 1. Okt. 2019 um 19:08 Uhr schrieb Paulo Santos Perneta < paulosperneta@gmail.com>:
" A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint for the communities’ information." - It's quite unclear what are we supposed to do with this, since those recommendations most probably became outdated in the course of the Tunis meetings in the days following their publication. Are we supposed to do anything at all with them?
Best, Paulo
Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de escreveu no dia segunda, 30/09/2019 à(s) 17:27:
Hi everyone,
We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where representatives from each working group met in person to continue
bringing
nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event also brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and
Wikimedia
Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of the core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming
weeks;
in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on commons [2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining
their
draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events from Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on social media since March of this year. They had also begun identifying overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second iteration
of
draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint
for
the communities’ information.
At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures would
need
to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what became clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a coherent and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that
underpin
the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will continue so
as
to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking
into
options for another round of community input.
I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to achieve
our
initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on the
core
team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted an enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the
event,
and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all their effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level of work and dedication every single working group member has put into
getting
the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape the future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate into the overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all as soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel free to reach out to me.
Best regards, Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
[2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Spr...
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
-- Nicole Ebber Adviser International Relations Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der
Menschheit
teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter
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That's helpful.
Volunteers are repeatedly shut down asking questions on this list and on wiki project noticeboards, by being told they should ask questions on these more obscure and hard to find meta talk pages. So it's good to know that when we are redirected this way, it's fair to say that those meta pages are not the right places to expect answers either, just to have some third party summarize and presumably sanitize comments as part of some non-public and non-transparent process.
Thanks for the clarification.
Fae
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019, 10:48 Nicole Ebber, nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Dear Paulo and Ziko,
Thanks for your interest and your questions.
Regarding the second iteration of the recommendations: We posted them for your information, to provide insights into how different strands of input have been progressed so far. We are not in a structured open consultation phase at the moment, but comments are of course always welcome on the talk pages, will be monitored, summarized and fed back to the Working Groups.
Ziko, yes, as we wrote on the meta page, an extended report will be shared soon.
Regards, Nicole
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 23:40, Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Nicole, Thank you for the explanation. Maybe some more context on Meta Wiki might make sense? I am looking forward to see the final results. Kind regards Ziko
Am Di., 1. Okt. 2019 um 19:08 Uhr schrieb Paulo Santos Perneta < paulosperneta@gmail.com>:
" A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint for the communities’ information." - It's quite unclear what are we
supposed to
do with this, since those recommendations most probably became
outdated in
the course of the Tunis meetings in the days following their
publication.
Are we supposed to do anything at all with them?
Best, Paulo
Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de escreveu no dia segunda, 30/09/2019 à(s) 17:27:
Hi everyone,
We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where representatives from each working group met in person to continue
bringing
nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event
also
brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and
Wikimedia
Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of
the
core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming
weeks;
in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on
commons
[2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining
their
draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events
from
Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on social media since March of this year. They had also begun
identifying
overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second
iteration
of
draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the
sprint
for
the communities’ information.
At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures
would
need
to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what
became
clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a
coherent
and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that
underpin
the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will
continue so
as
to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking
into
options for another round of community input.
I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to
achieve
our
initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on
the
core
team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted
an
enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the
event,
and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all
their
effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level
of
work and dedication every single working group member has put into
getting
the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape
the
future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate
into the
overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all
as
soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel
free
to reach out to me.
Best regards, Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
[2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Spr...
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
-- Nicole Ebber Adviser International Relations Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der
Menschheit
teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.
V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
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