On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Steve Smith sarcasticidealist@gmail.com wrote:

• at the very least, the WMF should clarify that its policy that no

account is needed to edit does not preclude the default semi-protection of BLPs (or any similar configuration of flagged revisions).  This has been one of several stonewalling responses at en-wiki when protection of BLPs has been proposed: "Sorry, we can't do it; Foundation issue".

It's worth noting that the "f" in "foundation issues" as described at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Foundation_issues is a lowercase "f". The WMF didn't yet exist when the page was first created.

It's interesting to note the evolution of that page since it was created.

In 2004, the following five principles were described as being "essentially beyond debate." "Any challenge to these issues" was described as "usually ignored," and "people who disagree with them" were said to "usually end up leaving the project."

1. "The 'wiki process' as the final authority on article content" -- Not always true. 2. "Ability of anyone to edit articles without registering" -- No longer true. 3. "NPOV as the guiding editorial principle" -- True on some projects. 4. "GFDL licensing of content" -- Not true on some projects, and it looks like it may not be true on any projects at some point in the future. 5. "Jimbo Wales as ultimate authority on any matter" -- No longer true, though he continues to wield considerable influence.

Here are the five "foundation issues" as presently listed:

1. "Neutral point of view as the guiding editorial principle" 2. "Ability of anyone to edit articles without registering" 3. "The 'wiki process' as the decision mechanism on content" 4. "Free licensing of content; in practice, defined by project, either GFDL or CC-BY." 5. The Board of Trustees has ultimate authority on all matters pertaining to the Wikimedia Foundation. By convention, Jimbo Wales retains some authority on the English Wikipedia. On some projects, the Arbitration Committees can make binding, final decisions such as banning an editor.

While most of these are largely true, the idea of the existence of "Foundation issues" that can never be contravened is largely false. "Sorry, can't do it, Foundation issue" is an invalid argument.

Mike R