How do US, Geman/EU (for Wikidata) and other sanctions affect our movement and its projects?
How is WMF supporting Wikimedians in Ukraine? And - where sanctions allow - supporting Wikimedians in Russia, who are trying to disseminate facts and fight censorship and propaganda?
A great question! Dear renvoy, antanana and others in Ukraine, please stay safe. Not only, what is WMF doing, but what an we all do to help?
Here's a potential Ru block in the works, and a request for better VPN support for editors in the region. https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1498735210342633473 https://twitter.com/runasand/status/1498742191719694345
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On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 8:26 AM Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
How do US, Geman/EU (for Wikidata) and other sanctions affect our movement and its projects?
How is WMF supporting Wikimedians in Ukraine? And - where sanctions allow - supporting Wikimedians in Russia, who are trying to disseminate facts and fight censorship and propaganda?
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/... To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
you have to be careful about the strategies you use. Above all, avoid politicizing the WF
Le mar. 1 mars 2022 à 15:00, Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com a écrit :
A great question! Dear renvoy, antanana and others in Ukraine, please stay safe. Not only, what is WMF doing, but what an we all do to help?
Here's a potential Ru block in the works, and a request for better VPN support for editors in the region. https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1498735210342633473 https://twitter.com/runasand/status/1498742191719694345
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On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 8:26 AM Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
How do US, Geman/EU (for Wikidata) and other sanctions affect our movement and its projects?
How is WMF supporting Wikimedians in Ukraine? And - where sanctions allow - supporting Wikimedians in Russia, who are trying to disseminate facts and fight censorship and propaganda?
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/... To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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By the way, Andy, should you not have seen this: https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2022/03/01/wikimedia-foundation-calls-f... Kind regards Ziko
Am Di., 1. März 2022 um 21:00 Uhr schrieb Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com:
A great question! Dear renvoy, antanana and others in Ukraine, please stay safe. Not only, what is WMF doing, but what an we all do to help?
Here's a potential Ru block in the works, and a request for better VPN support for editors in the region. https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1498735210342633473 https://twitter.com/runasand/status/1498742191719694345
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On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 8:26 AM Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
How do US, Geman/EU (for Wikidata) and other sanctions affect our movement and its projects?
How is WMF supporting Wikimedians in Ukraine? And - where sanctions allow - supporting Wikimedians in Russia, who are trying to disseminate facts and fight censorship and propaganda?
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/... To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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+1 on the "what can we all do to help?" question. On the VPN topic, I suspect the functionary teams will be pretty open to granting IPBE for folks editing from that region. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IP_block_exemption#Used_for_anonymou... has details if anyone needs it.
– Molly White (GorillaWarfare) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GorillaWarfare she/her
I wonder if a banner raising awareness regarding the existence of offline apps specifically Kiwix for when communication goes down would be useful?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kiwix.kiwixmobile&hl=e...
We also have Internet in a Box, with instruction on how to build your own here
https://mdwiki.org/wiki/WikiProjectMed:Internet-in-a-Box
James
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 2:37 PM GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 on the "what can we all do to help?" question. On the VPN topic, I suspect the functionary teams will be pretty open to granting IPBE for folks editing from that region. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IP_block_exemption#Used_for_anonymou... has details if anyone needs it.
– Molly White (GorillaWarfare) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GorillaWarfare she/her _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/... To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
Thanks for your support! The best "sanctions" WMF can implement is raising awareness about the whole situation. For example, the promotion of Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month 2022 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%27s_Cultural_Diplomacy_Month_2022. About Russian Wikipedia: unfortunately, most likely it will get banned in the Federation. More than 70 Russian Wikipedians wrote open letter to us on our village pump https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%96%D1%8F:%D0%9A%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BF%D0%B0_(%D1%80%D1%96%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B5)#%D0%9D%D1%96_%D0%B2%D1%96%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%96! where they condemned the invasion, so WMF might support people who signed this letter legally because of possible threats.
Best regards, Renvoy
вт, 1 бер. 2022 р. о 22:57 James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com пише:
I wonder if a banner raising awareness regarding the existence of offline apps specifically Kiwix for when communication goes down would be useful?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kiwix.kiwixmobile&hl=e...
We also have Internet in a Box, with instruction on how to build your own here
https://mdwiki.org/wiki/WikiProjectMed:Internet-in-a-Box
James
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 2:37 PM GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 on the "what can we all do to help?" question. On the VPN topic, I suspect the functionary teams will be pretty open to granting IPBE for folks editing from that region. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IP_block_exemption#Used_for_anonymou... has details if anyone needs it.
– Molly White (GorillaWarfare) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GorillaWarfare she/her _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/... To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 22:20, Valentin Nefedov nefedov.valentin@gmail.com wrote:
More than 70 Russian Wikipedians wrote open letter to us on our village pump where they condemned the invasion
This is really heartening. I am pleased - but not in the east surprised - to see the signatories include several people I count as friends.
Have proposed that EN Wikipedia adopt a logo in support of Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Switching_o...
James
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:53 PM Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 22:20, Valentin Nefedov nefedov.valentin@gmail.com wrote:
More than 70 Russian Wikipedians wrote open letter to us on our village
pump
where they condemned the invasion
This is really heartening. I am pleased - but not in the east surprised - to see the signatories include several people I count as friends.
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing https://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/... To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
Hello,
OSM Poland community is working on enriching map of border with Ukraine to help Ukrainian refugees access reception points.
https://dopomoha.pl/en/#map=7/50.538/24.055
Pull request can be submitted here. https://github.com/openstreetmap-polska/ua-2022-map
As Wikimedians, we could do something similar which can be of practical use to the Ukrainian people for now like enriching more information and data about Western Ukraine, Poland, Romania, Hungary etc. in Ukrainian language using which they might get some relief and can reorganize.
Changing the color of Wikipedia logo to Ukrainian flag have some major issues though. It might show our solidarity but it also can show that we take side in geopolitics questioning our neutrality. We hadn't changed color during other invasions in recent times. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_invasions#2000%E2%80%93present . That might raise question about our biasness towards certain players. But anyway, it all depends on how the community thinks.
Regards, Bodhisattwa
On Wed, Mar 2, 2022, 04:58 James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Have proposed that EN Wikipedia adopt a logo in support of Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Switching_o...
James
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:53 PM Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 22:20, Valentin Nefedov nefedov.valentin@gmail.com wrote:
More than 70 Russian Wikipedians wrote open letter to us on our village
pump
where they condemned the invasion
This is really heartening. I am pleased - but not in the east surprised - to see the signatories include several people I count as friends.
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing https://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/... To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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I agree and I think that the best support is to offer a neutral and complete information against any kind of propaganda.
This is what Wikimedia can do better.
Kind regards
On Tue, 1 Mar 2022, 23:21 Valentin Nefedov, nefedov.valentin@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for your support! The best "sanctions" WMF can implement is raising awareness about the whole situation. For example, the promotion of Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month 2022 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%27s_Cultural_Diplomacy_Month_2022. About Russian Wikipedia: unfortunately, most likely it will get banned in the Federation. More than 70 Russian Wikipedians wrote open letter to us on our village pump https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%96%D1%8F:%D0%9A%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BF%D0%B0_(%D1%80%D1%96%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B5)#%D0%9D%D1%96_%D0%B2%D1%96%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%96! where they condemned the invasion, so WMF might support people who signed this letter legally because of possible threats.
Best regards, Renvoy
вт, 1 бер. 2022 р. о 22:57 James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com пише:
I wonder if a banner raising awareness regarding the existence of offline apps specifically Kiwix for when communication goes down would be useful?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kiwix.kiwixmobile&hl=e...
We also have Internet in a Box, with instruction on how to build your own here
https://mdwiki.org/wiki/WikiProjectMed:Internet-in-a-Box
James
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 2:37 PM GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 on the "what can we all do to help?" question. On the VPN topic, I suspect the functionary teams will be pretty open to granting IPBE for folks editing from that region. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IP_block_exemption#Used_for_anonymou... has details if anyone needs it.
– Molly White (GorillaWarfare) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GorillaWarfare she/her _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/... To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Some thoughts:
* Being neutral is not the same as not taking a side in a conflict. We can take side with human rights. * There are wars elsewhere in the world. If we take a decision over Ukraine, then other wikimedians may ask the same kind of decisions when another country invades a third one. It's not something speculative: the US has invaded lot of countries in the last 30 years and is still bombing others, european countries invaded Libya, Israel is invading Syria (not to mention the situation in Palestine), Saudi Arabia is invading Yemen, France is bombing Chad, Iran may be seen as an invader in Lebanon... the list is really long, and every point may be discussed. * Our main point is not war. Our main point is co-operation and building knowledge together. Wikimedians around the world share this view, independent of their views in national or international conflicts. * Let's change the focus: Wikimedians promote peace, because diplomacy and conflict solving is something we make better than we think. We build together. We work together. * Let's think big: Wiki[m,p]edia must get the Nobel Peace Prize in 2023.
Change my mind.
galder
________________________________ From: Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 9:30 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Sanctions against the Russian Federation; support for Ukrainian Wikimedians
I agree and I think that the best support is to offer a neutral and complete information against any kind of propaganda.
This is what Wikimedia can do better.
Kind regards
On Tue, 1 Mar 2022, 23:21 Valentin Nefedov, <nefedov.valentin@gmail.commailto:nefedov.valentin@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks for your support! The best "sanctions" WMF can implement is raising awareness about the whole situation. For example, the promotion of Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month 2022https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%27s_Cultural_Diplomacy_Month_2022. About Russian Wikipedia: unfortunately, most likely it will get banned in the Federation. More than 70 Russian Wikipedians wrote open letter to us on our village pumphttps://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%96%D1%8F:%D0%9A%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BF%D0%B0_(%D1%80%D1%96%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B5)#%D0%9D%D1%96_%D0%B2%D1%96%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%96! where they condemned the invasion, so WMF might support people who signed this letter legally because of possible threats.
Best regards, Renvoy
вт, 1 бер. 2022 р. о 22:57 James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.commailto:jmh649@gmail.com> пише: I wonder if a banner raising awareness regarding the existence of offline apps specifically Kiwix for when communication goes down would be useful?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kiwix.kiwixmobile&hl=e...
We also have Internet in a Box, with instruction on how to build your own here
https://mdwiki.org/wiki/WikiProjectMed:Internet-in-a-Box
James
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 2:37 PM GorillaWarfare <gorillawarfarewikipedia@gmail.commailto:gorillawarfarewikipedia@gmail.com> wrote: +1 on the "what can we all do to help?" question. On the VPN topic, I suspect the functionary teams will be pretty open to granting IPBE for folks editing from that region. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IP_block_exemption#Used_for_anonymou... has details if anyone needs it.
– Molly White (GorillaWarfare) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GorillaWarfare she/her _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/... To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Yes, that is what we are supposed to do and supposed to be good at. Cheers, Peter
From: Ilario Valdelli [mailto:valdelli@gmail.com] Sent: 02 March 2022 10:31 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Sanctions against the Russian Federation; support for Ukrainian Wikimedians
I agree and I think that the best support is to offer a neutral and complete information against any kind of propaganda.
This is what Wikimedia can do better.
Kind regards
On Tue, 1 Mar 2022, 23:21 Valentin Nefedov, nefedov.valentin@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for your support! The best "sanctions" WMF can implement is raising awareness about the whole situation. For example, the promotion of Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month 2022 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%27s_Cultural_Diplomacy_Month_2022 . About Russian Wikipedia: unfortunately, most likely it will get banned in the Federation. More than 70 Russian Wikipedians wrote open letter to us on our village pump https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%96%D1%8F:%D0%9A%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BF%D0%B0_(%D1%80%D1%96%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B5)#%D0%9D%D1%96_%D0%B2%D1%96%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%96! where they condemned the invasion, so WMF might support people who signed this letter legally because of possible threats.
Best regards,
Renvoy
вт, 1 бер. 2022 р. о 22:57 James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com пише:
I wonder if a banner raising awareness regarding the existence of offline apps specifically Kiwix for when communication goes down would be useful?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kiwix.kiwixmobile https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kiwix.kiwixmobile&hl=en_CA&gl=US &hl=en_CA&gl=US
We also have Internet in a Box, with instruction on how to build your own here
https://mdwiki.org/wiki/WikiProjectMed:Internet-in-a-Box
James
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 2:37 PM GorillaWarfare gorillawarfarewikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
+1 on the "what can we all do to help?" question. On the VPN topic, I suspect the functionary teams will be pretty open to granting IPBE for folks editing from that region. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IP_block_exemption#Used_for_anonymou... has details if anyone needs it.
– Molly White (GorillaWarfare)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GorillaWarfare
she/her
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Hello all,
We share your concern for the ongoing threats to our community members in Ukraine and Russia, as well as our global mission to share free and open knowledge. As Ziko just shared, the Foundation issued a statement https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2022/03/01/wikimedia-foundation-calls-for-continued-access-to-free-and-open-knowledge-as-ukraine-crisis-continues/ earlier today on the crisis in Ukraine. We will continue to connect with our communities in the area and monitor for any cyber attacks or threats of disinformation.
Earlier today, the Wikimedia Foundation received a letter from Roskomnadzor asking for removal of an article on Russian Wikipedia about the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Wikimedia Russia also has a copy of this letter and has shared it on the Russian Wikipedia village pump. We appreciate the effort of the many editors working in this area to ensure that Wikipedia has high quality content, and we are currently reviewing what our options are to challenge the request.
Thank you,
Stephen
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 5:26 AM Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
How do US, Geman/EU (for Wikidata) and other sanctions affect our movement and its projects?
How is WMF supporting Wikimedians in Ukraine? And - where sanctions allow - supporting Wikimedians in Russia, who are trying to disseminate facts and fight censorship and propaganda?
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/... To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 06:26, Stephen LaPorte slaporte@wikimedia.org wrote:
We share your concern for the ongoing threats to our community members in Ukraine and Russia, as well as our global mission to share free and open knowledge. As Ziko just shared, the Foundation issued a statement earlier today on the crisis in Ukraine.
I don't think any of us would disagree with the sentiments expressed there.
But your post does not answer the questions I posed in the original post in this thread.
Hello Andy,
The Foundation is undertaking several initiatives in assisting the Wikimedia communities in Ukraine and Russia, and in reviewing the potential impacts that the sanctions will have on the movement. We are not able to discuss all the specifics without potential risk to those being supported.
What we can disclose is that the Trust and Safety and Human Rights units of the Foundation are in constant communication with community members in Ukraine and Russia. Our Disinformation Team on the other hand is actively collaborating with various communities in monitoring the situation, and in ensuring that the projects maintain neutrality during these unprecedented times.
Other emails on this thread have shared valuable ideas of how we can collectively assist the Wikimedia communities in Ukraine and Russia, and we are grateful for that. As we continue to monitor the situation, we urge everyone to report direct threats of harm through our dedicated channel: emergency@wikimedia.org, so that we can evaluate them on an individual basis and determine the best course of action.
On matters related to disinformation, and specifically pertaining to Ukraine and Russia, we have set up a dedicated channel and our team can be reached through drt@wikimedia.org.
Best, Stephen
On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 5:25 AM Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 06:26, Stephen LaPorte slaporte@wikimedia.org wrote:
We share your concern for the ongoing threats to our community members in Ukraine and Russia, as well as our global mission to share free and open knowledge. As Ziko just shared, the Foundation issued a statement earlier today on the crisis in Ukraine.
I don't think any of us would disagree with the sentiments expressed there.
But your post does not answer the questions I posed in the original post in this thread.
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Hi Everyone,
As you know Turkey has banned more than 2,5 year Wikipedia Project all languages. And we contributed through free VPNs in those years.
Andy Mabbett was also our guest speaker during the ban for the Wikidata 6th Birthday event https://uskudar.edu.tr/en/icerik/3354/wikidata-celebrated-the-6-birthday-at-uskudar-university. We contacted WMF employees many times.
I hope no one is not badly affected by this situation.
Regards,
*Zafer*
*WMTR*
Stephen LaPorte slaporte@wikimedia.org, 2 Mar 2022 Çar, 21:48 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
Hello Andy,
The Foundation is undertaking several initiatives in assisting the Wikimedia communities in Ukraine and Russia, and in reviewing the potential impacts that the sanctions will have on the movement. We are not able to discuss all the specifics without potential risk to those being supported.
What we can disclose is that the Trust and Safety and Human Rights units of the Foundation are in constant communication with community members in Ukraine and Russia. Our Disinformation Team on the other hand is actively collaborating with various communities in monitoring the situation, and in ensuring that the projects maintain neutrality during these unprecedented times.
Other emails on this thread have shared valuable ideas of how we can collectively assist the Wikimedia communities in Ukraine and Russia, and we are grateful for that. As we continue to monitor the situation, we urge everyone to report direct threats of harm through our dedicated channel: emergency@wikimedia.org, so that we can evaluate them on an individual basis and determine the best course of action.
On matters related to disinformation, and specifically pertaining to Ukraine and Russia, we have set up a dedicated channel and our team can be reached through drt@wikimedia.org.
Best, Stephen
On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 5:25 AM Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 06:26, Stephen LaPorte slaporte@wikimedia.org wrote:
We share your concern for the ongoing threats to our community members
in
Ukraine and Russia, as well as our global mission to share free and open knowledge. As Ziko just shared, the Foundation issued a statement
earlier
today on the crisis in Ukraine.
I don't think any of us would disagree with the sentiments expressed there.
But your post does not answer the questions I posed in the original post in this thread.
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On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 18:04, Stephen LaPorte slaporte@wikimedia.org wrote:
The Foundation is undertaking several initiatives in assisting the Wikimedia communities in Ukraine and Russia, and in reviewing the potential impacts that the sanctions will have on the movement. We are not able to discuss all the specifics without potential risk to those being supported.
What we can disclose is that the Trust and Safety and Human Rights units of the Foundation are in constant communication with community members in Ukraine and Russia.
Thank you for the response. It is good to know that WMF is assisting our colleagues, and of course I understand the need for discretion regarding specifics, but I had hoped you could tell us /something/ about what is being done in that regard.
An additional thought occurs to me: Do we know of any Wikimedians who have become refugees, and are we assisting them in their new host countries?
Regarding sanctions, do WMF have salaried staff or freelancers in Russia, and what is their position now? Does WMF fund a chapter or any other grantees in Russia, and ditto?
I was contacted by two wikipedians from Ukraine which I know personally with questions about the situation at Polish border and what documents they need to enter. I just answered them + gave my private phone number, but till then I haven't heard from them, so they either decided to stay or are still trying to get to the border. One of them is from Kiev and one from Lviv. Bear in mind that at the moment, there are around 1 million Ukrainians queing at the border on the Ukrainian side, and Poland is able to accept around 100 000 per day.
I guess - if the substantial number of Ukrainian Wikipedias manage to reach Polish border - some sort of help from WMF would be very appreciated - but at the moment I guess not too much real help can be done.
Cheers,
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czw., 3 mar 2022 o 11:40 Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk napisał(a):
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 18:04, Stephen LaPorte slaporte@wikimedia.org wrote:
The Foundation is undertaking several initiatives in assisting the
Wikimedia
communities in Ukraine and Russia, and in reviewing the potential impacts that the sanctions will have on the movement. We are not able to discuss
all
the specifics without potential risk to those being supported.
What we can disclose is that the Trust and Safety and Human Rights units
of
the Foundation are in constant communication with community members in
Ukraine
and Russia.
Thank you for the response. It is good to know that WMF is assisting our colleagues, and of course I understand the need for discretion regarding specifics, but I had hoped you could tell us /something/ about what is being done in that regard.
An additional thought occurs to me: Do we know of any Wikimedians who have become refugees, and are we assisting them in their new host countries?
Regarding sanctions, do WMF have salaried staff or freelancers in Russia, and what is their position now? Does WMF fund a chapter or any other grantees in Russia, and ditto?
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Males between 18 and 60 may not leave the country (and probably do not want to do it anyway), so that there could be only women, old people, and children among the refugees. Given the gender gap situation, probably there are not so many Wikipedians among them, but I hope if there are some, they will let themselves known.
Best Yaroslav
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 2:35 PM Tomasz Ganicz polimerek@gmail.com wrote:
I was contacted by two wikipedians from Ukraine which I know personally with questions about the situation at Polish border and what documents they need to enter. I just answered them + gave my private phone number, but till then I haven't heard from them, so they either decided to stay or are still trying to get to the border. One of them is from Kiev and one from Lviv. Bear in mind that at the moment, there are around 1 million Ukrainians queing at the border on the Ukrainian side, and Poland is able to accept around 100 000 per day.
I guess - if the substantial number of Ukrainian Wikipedias manage to reach Polish border - some sort of help from WMF would be very appreciated
- but at the moment I guess not too much real help can be done.
Cheers,
https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail Wolny od wirusów. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail <#m_-2230622763712047362_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
czw., 3 mar 2022 o 11:40 Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk napisał(a):
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 18:04, Stephen LaPorte slaporte@wikimedia.org wrote:
The Foundation is undertaking several initiatives in assisting the
Wikimedia
communities in Ukraine and Russia, and in reviewing the potential
impacts
that the sanctions will have on the movement. We are not able to discuss
all
the specifics without potential risk to those being supported.
What we can disclose is that the Trust and Safety and Human Rights
units of
the Foundation are in constant communication with community members in
Ukraine
and Russia.
Thank you for the response. It is good to know that WMF is assisting our colleagues, and of course I understand the need for discretion regarding specifics, but I had hoped you could tell us /something/ about what is being done in that regard.
An additional thought occurs to me: Do we know of any Wikimedians who have become refugees, and are we assisting them in their new host countries?
Regarding sanctions, do WMF have salaried staff or freelancers in Russia, and what is their position now? Does WMF fund a chapter or any other grantees in Russia, and ditto?
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As a member of Wikimedia Ukraine, I can say that we as an organisation proposed help for Wikipedians from Ukraine. Wikimedia Poland was also very kind to express its readiness to help. But as far as I know, no one used this help so far.
чт, 3 бер. 2022 р. о 14:55 Yaroslav Blanter ymbalt@gmail.com пише:
Males between 18 and 60 may not leave the country (and probably do not want to do it anyway), so that there could be only women, old people, and children among the refugees. Given the gender gap situation, probably there are not so many Wikipedians among them, but I hope if there are some, they will let themselves known.
Best Yaroslav
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 2:35 PM Tomasz Ganicz polimerek@gmail.com wrote:
I was contacted by two wikipedians from Ukraine which I know personally with questions about the situation at Polish border and what documents they need to enter. I just answered them + gave my private phone number, but till then I haven't heard from them, so they either decided to stay or are still trying to get to the border. One of them is from Kiev and one from Lviv. Bear in mind that at the moment, there are around 1 million Ukrainians queing at the border on the Ukrainian side, and Poland is able to accept around 100 000 per day.
I guess - if the substantial number of Ukrainian Wikipedias manage to reach Polish border - some sort of help from WMF would be very appreciated
- but at the moment I guess not too much real help can be done.
Cheers,
https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail Wolny od wirusów. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail <#m_-6354216588033126005_m_-2230622763712047362_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
czw., 3 mar 2022 o 11:40 Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk napisał(a):
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 18:04, Stephen LaPorte slaporte@wikimedia.org wrote:
The Foundation is undertaking several initiatives in assisting the
Wikimedia
communities in Ukraine and Russia, and in reviewing the potential
impacts
that the sanctions will have on the movement. We are not able to
discuss all
the specifics without potential risk to those being supported.
What we can disclose is that the Trust and Safety and Human Rights
units of
the Foundation are in constant communication with community members in
Ukraine
and Russia.
Thank you for the response. It is good to know that WMF is assisting our colleagues, and of course I understand the need for discretion regarding specifics, but I had hoped you could tell us /something/ about what is being done in that regard.
An additional thought occurs to me: Do we know of any Wikimedians who have become refugees, and are we assisting them in their new host countries?
Regarding sanctions, do WMF have salaried staff or freelancers in Russia, and what is their position now? Does WMF fund a chapter or any other grantees in Russia, and ditto?
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