EDIT SUMMARY      If you look at the contributions of the person that reverted you, and did not leave   an edit summary, in most cases an administrator, you will find that yours was 1 out   of  10 they have made in last 60 seconds or more , with that kind of editing they are   not looking   at what you have done, but the fact that you are an IP editing, they are eather  watching   you from past edits (stalking you) or watching real time edits done by IP’s.   your good faith edit and your discussion on the talk page are not looked at, and even   the  talk – discussion page is reverted.   (talk page en wikipedia and discussion page wikidata)       Not knowing what you have done wrong, if any, starts edit wars, or notice board   complaints and page blocking etc.   To that end and to stop one part of the problem on en wikipedia and wikidata etc..   the edit summary needs to be mandatory to the point that the save will not work until   you type something in the box, and that the the default summary message is disabled .                 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_summary   From: Kerry Raymond Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 10:38 PM To: 'Research into Wikimedia content and communities' Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Results from 2018 global Wikimedia surveyare published!   As advice to an individual editor on how to deal with good faith but problematics edits, I would say give the newbie feedback on exactly what the specific problem is with their reverted edit explain how to fix it, and continue to watch the article and their user talk page to see how they are going, and keep offering help until they get it right.

For my long answer on how to do it at scale, see my other longer email.

Kerry

-----Original Message----- From: Wiki-research-l [mailto:wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2018 5:01 AM To: Wiki Research-l < wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Results from 2018 global Wikimedia survey are published!

Kerry,

This discussion about reverts, combined with my recent experience on ENWP, makes me wonder if there's a way to make reverts feel less hostile on average. Do you have any ideas about how to do that?

Thanks,

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