FD seem to collect lots of crappy feedback...
Why WMF promis always think a wiki interface will save the world? It
definitely will not, because newbies will never touch this
interface... and this is a BIG BIG problem nobody wants to
acknowledge. We do need services that are easier to use than a wiki
is... OMG can nobody understand this simple thing? And yes, it
actually may be cheaper to develop such interfaces from scratch...
than to try to bend MediaWiki over and over again.
Teahouse is a good concept but in wrong software environment (wikitext
and MediaWiki again).
Why is LiquidThreads on hold? Who stopped it? Things are going to hell
again then... This project was a light in the end of a tunnel...
unfortunatelly the "consesnus-based" community probably blew it up...
because there were few NO-sayers who sent this promising projet to the
hell...
2012/4/7 Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org>rg>:
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Peter Coombe
<thewub.wiki(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
Wasn't there a proposal a while back for a
Stack Exchange [1] site
like this? It seems like the ideal software for it.
StackExchange and the open source OSQA equivalent are indeed powerful
tools and worth experimenting with. Anyone wanting to set up a public
instance of these or other tools to play with can do so through
Wikimedia Labs and of course the toolserver. See
https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access for Labs access and
policies.
We've focused on creating a more integrated help experience with two
projects, the feedback dashboard (FD) and the teahouse.
The FD gives new editors an opportunity to ask a question or register
a complaint. It pops into view the moment you first click edit, which
is a more obvious affordance than a separate help site you have to
find out about and visit. It's been active on en.wp and nl.wp for a
few months, and was recently activated on French Wikisource as well.
On en.wp, we register about 100 feedback submissions a day, and about
30-50 responses.
FD includes a few features which elevate it above ordinary talk page responses:
- an in-line response tool on the dashboard itself which shortcuts the
path to the user's talk page
- a "mark as helpful" feature which the recipient of a message can use
to indicate that they were helped.
- friendly email notifications (not the standard talk page notifiers)
- a leaderboard of top responders, which has been helpful at
incentivizing participation
FD for English Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:FeedbackDashboard
FD for Dutch Wikipedia:
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciaal:DashboardTerugkoppeling
FD for French Wikisource:
http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:FeedbackDashboard
We're currently letting the project sit for a while to gather metrics
about any impact it has on editors who are being helped.
The teahouse is a less technical and more social initiative:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse
It is supported by some shiny templates and a nice little in-line
response gadget. But it's primarily an effort to mobilize lots of
people to engage in user-to-user help. As you can see, lots of folks
have signed up as hosts (people who respond), and early metrics
indicate that there's indeed a positive impact on retention.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Teahouse/Metrics
IMO setting up a separate Q/A site would be in some ways a workaround
for Wikimedia's poor internal discussion system, and would incur lots
of disadvantages (detached from workflows, no easy login integration,
no easy integration of wiki markup / templates, separate technical
infrastructure with additional maintenance/scalability/security
burden, need for additional policy development on copyright, terms of
use, etc. ......). But it's worth experimenting with, for sure, if
only to find out what UI/UX patterns are worth applying to our own
solutions.
LQT is on hold for now, because it's an overambitious and
underresourced project. We're going to start work soon on this
project:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo_(Notifications)
This is a larger effort to improve Wikimedia's notifications
infrastructure, and will lay the groundwork for messaging
improvements, as well as other next generation features. We hope that
we'll be able to improve user-to-user messaging features in this
process, which would be a technical foundation for improved direct
user support systems.
For the tech side of things, our goals for next fiscal are still
draft, but give a good idea what we're thinking about (pending
approval of associated staffing/funding):
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2012-13_Goals
Erik
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