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ENWP Pine

1 Jun 2014 1 Jun '14

10:17 a.m.

Hi all, Our usual Signpost publisher and Editor-in-Chief, The_ed17, has very limited internet access. Tony and I have finished content for the May 28th Signpost but we can't work out the technical details of the publication process. We need a password for the automated publishing process that we don't have, and we're trying to get it. I have been working through some of the (complicated and poorly documented) Signpost templates and LivingBot for manual publication but there are still parts that I can't work out. Thanks for your patience until we normalize our publication process. If you go to [1] you will see that the banner says May 21st but we have updated content for the week of May 28th. Please enjoy the content, and apologies again for the delays and technical difficulties. Pine [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost

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Andy Mabbett

1 Jun 1 Jun

9:06 p.m.

On 1 June 2014 11:17, ENWP Pine <deyntestiss(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

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We need a password for the automated publishing process that we don't have, and we're trying to get it. I have been working through some of the (complicated and poorly documented) Signpost templates and LivingBot for manual publication but there are still parts that I can't work out.

Why does such as an important service have a critical "single point of failure"? What changes will be made, as a result of the lessons learned from this? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Pete Forsyth

10:15 p.m.

Andy, I don't think we're learning anything new here -- the signpost has always been produced by volunteers, and has often had a somewhat irregular publication schedule. I think Pine is trying to do his/her best to get through an immediate challenge, and I'm not sure it's fair to him/her to use this as an excuse to bring up a topic that could be broached at any time. At minimum, it seems best to wait until this issue had shipped, and Ed has returned to an Internet enabled location, before giving into the broader questions. Pete User: peteforsyth On Jun 1, 2014 2:06 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

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On 1 June 2014 11:17, ENWP Pine <deyntestiss(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

We need a password for the automated publishing process that we don't

have, and we're trying to get it. I have been working through some of the (complicated and poorly documented) Signpost templates and LivingBot for manual publication but there are still parts that I can't work out. Why does such as an important service have a critical "single point of failure"? What changes will be made, as a result of the lessons learned from this? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

Andy Mabbett

11:27 p.m.

On 1 June 2014 23:15, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Andy, I don't think we're learning anything new here -- the signpost has always been produced by volunteers, and has often had a somewhat irregular publication schedule.

I wasn't querying any irregualr publication schedule; I was asking why its seems Signpost relies on a single person, whose unavailability causes the issues described.

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I think Pine is trying to do his/her best to get through an immediate challenge

I'm sure so too; that's why I didn't say anything to suggest otherwise.

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and I'm not sure it's fair to him/her to use this as an excuse to bring up a topic that could be broached at any time.

An "excuse"? We're told something has gone wrong; I asked what steps are being taken to prevent a recurrence.

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At minimum, it seems best to wait until this issue had shipped, and Ed has returned to an Internet enabled location, before giving into the broader questions.

I didn't set a deadline for a reply to my question. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Pete Forsyth

11:31 p.m.

On Jun 1, 2014 4:28 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

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I didn't set a deadline for a reply to my question.

OK, fair enough. Sorry if I jumped the gun. Pete

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