On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:42, Fred Bauder fredbaud@fairpoint.net wrote:
An interesting technique:
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/May2011/30/c8623.html
Fred
Thanks for the link. I actually felt a surge of pride when I read it:
"A student writing an essay for their teacher may be tempted to plagiarize or leave facts unchecked. A new study shows that if you ask that same student to write something that will be posted on Wikipedia, he or she suddenly becomes determined to make the work as accurate as possible, and may actually do better research. ...
"[Brenna Gray] says despite its faults, [Wikipedia] does promote solid values for its writers, including precise citations, accurate research, editing and revision."
Sarah
Now that my attention has been drawn to that section, I wonder if that explains why the academic projects were not welcome and their contributions are being vandalized, almost systematically, at the Brazilian Wikipedia.
Sincerely,
Virgilio A. P. Machado
At 09:43 31-05-2011, you wrote:
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:42, Fred Bauder fredbaud@fairpoint.net wrote:
An interesting technique:
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/May2011/30/c8623.html
Fred
Thanks for the link. I actually felt a surge of pride when I read it:
"A student writing an essay for their teacher may be tempted to plagiarize or leave facts unchecked. A new study shows that if you ask that same student to write something that will be posted on Wikipedia, he or she suddenly becomes determined to make the work as accurate as possible, and may actually do better research. ...
"[Brenna Gray] says despite its faults, [Wikipedia] does promote solid values for its writers, including precise citations, accurate research, editing and revision."
Sarah
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Fred Bauder fredbaud@fairpoint.net wrote:
An interesting technique:
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/May2011/30/c8623.html
This is so true!
My highschool sweetheart is a science prof, and recently pointed me to this essay that one of her students published to Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Perception_and_production_of_music...
You can see the elements that come from a class essay ('The following will cover', no internal links) and the elements that come from Wikipedia style (aggressive footnoting, sectioning).
Those who toil away in the depths of style guide subpages and cite templates should be reminded from time to time of the tremendous impact their work has on the rest of the world...
SJ
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 02:46, Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Those who toil away in the depths of style guide subpages and cite templates should be reminded from time to time of the tremendous impact their work has on the rest of the world...
Speaking of which, David Gerard has just posted this to wikiEN-l. :)
On 1 June 2011 10:42, Sarah slimvirgin@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 02:46, Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Those who toil away in the depths of style guide subpages and cite templates should be reminded from time to time of the tremendous impact their work has on the rest of the world...
Speaking of which, David Gerard has just posted this to wikiEN-l. :) http://xkcd.com/906/
Ta bu shi da yu is still slightly chagrined that the (likely) one thing he has created that will resonate through culture is "[citation needed]".
- d.
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:04 AM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 1 June 2011 10:42, Sarah slimvirgin@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 02:46, Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Those who toil away in the depths of style guide subpages and cite templates should be reminded from time to time of the tremendous impact their work has on the rest of the world...
Speaking of which, David Gerard has just posted this to wikiEN-l. :) http://xkcd.com/906/
Ta bu shi da yu is still slightly chagrined that the (likely) one thing he has created that will resonate through culture is "[citation needed]".
And Larry Sanger and Magnus may be remembered for popularizing "disambiguation" outside of linguistics...
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/sj/2009/06/25/on-disambiguation-and-the-atomiza...
SJ
And Larry Sanger and Magnus may be remembered for popularizing "disambiguation" outside of linguistics...
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/sj/2009/06/25/on-disambiguation-and-the-atomiza...
SJ
Disconflation gets only 45 google hits while unconflation gets 267. Conflation, I guess, refers to confusion of similar ideas rather than similar words.
Fred
I always took the central point about conflation to be the unwitting mixing up of separate ideas - usually but not always to the mild confusion or detriment of both.
FT2
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Fred Bauder fredbaud@fairpoint.net wrote:
And Larry Sanger and Magnus may be remembered for popularizing "disambiguation" outside of linguistics...
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/sj/2009/06/25/on-disambiguation-and-the-atomiza...
SJ
Disconflation gets only 45 google hits while unconflation gets 267. Conflation, I guess, refers to confusion of similar ideas rather than similar words.
Fred
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I always took the central point about conflation to be the unwitting mixing up of separate ideas - usually but not always to the mild confusion or detriment of both.
FT2
Good research topic: What characteristics of ideas or facts lead to conflation. To take a notorious example, when Sarah Palin was asked about her foreign relations experience with respect to Russia, she replied that you could see Russia from Alaska. But true conflation, as a menace to discourse, includes much less easily distinguished concepts.
Fred
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Fred Bauder fredbaud@fairpoint.net wrote:
And Larry Sanger and Magnus may be remembered for popularizing "disambiguation" outside of linguistics...
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/sj/2009/06/25/on-disambiguation-and-the-atomiza...
SJ
Disconflation gets only 45 google hits while unconflation gets 267. Conflation, I guess, refers to confusion of similar ideas rather than similar words.
Fred
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