+1 to Mike's approach.
An *option* for carbon offsets seems worthwhile. A *requirement* seems
potentially at odds with our desire to be inclusive and accessible. And I
agree that something specifically tailored to a community built around
making information accessible would be a much better fit.
-Pete
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On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 3:21 PM Mike Peel <email(a)mikepeel.net> wrote:
I would suggest taking a different approach. Paying
for carbon offsets
does not further Wikimedia’s goals. It is, at best, a shortcut to brownie
points as measured by other organisations. Requiring volunteers to pay
extra for carbon offsets is doubly worse as they can’t then spend that
money on their other Wikimedia activities.
Instead, perhaps we could invest in projects that will improve our
coverage of climate change? Imagine the impact that improving our freely
licensed information about climate change could make. Good/featured
articles about the organisations that have been named here already? More
referenced information in the articles on this topic? More images to
illustrate those articles? If that doesn’t make a difference, then we have
to answer a rather more fundamental question about our impact on the world.
Thanks,
Mike
On 11 Oct 2019, at 22:27, Bence Damokos
<bdamokos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
In case it is interesting, for the tenders at my workplace that require
offsetting, we include this requirement:
"
Carbon offsetting will be achieved by means of projects of the following
type: CDM (Clean Development Mechanism), JI (Joint Implementation) or VER
(Voluntary Emissions Reduction), all certified as 'Gold Standard' by
bodies
accredited by the UNFCCC (United Nations
Framework Convention on Climate
Change)."
In practice,
https://offset.climateneutralnow.org/ is a place I've used
personally where one can easily find projects meeting the above criteria.
For more context, to save a bit of Google-ing:
CDM projects are those assessed and verified by the United Nations
Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) in developing countries
which can sell certified emission reduction (CER) credits, each one
equivalent to one ton of CO2. These CERs can be traded and sold and are
currently used by industrialized countries to meet a part of their
emission
reduction targets under the Kyoto Protocol(link
is external)
<
http://unfccc.int/kyoto_protocol/mechanisms/clean_development_mechanism/ite…
.
Gold Standard projects are CDM or voluntary offset projects giving an
additional guarantee concerning sustainable development benefits. These
are
projects awarded the 'Gold Standard'(link
is external)
<http://www.goldstandard.org/> quality label by a Swiss-based non-profit
foundation, supported by a group of 50 NGOs.[1]
[1] From
https://ec.europa.eu/europeaid/funding/faqs-toolkit-and-glossary/frequently…
Best regards,
Bence
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019, 22:55 Fæ, <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Any general questions like catering for virtual attendees can be
> raised at the talk page for the 2020 LGBT+ conference.[1] The
> conference is at the proposal stage with funding yet to be agreed with
> the WMF. The proposers will be happy to receive feedback and respond
> to questions.
>
> If no previous conference within our wider Wikimedia movement has used
> carbon offset projects to benefit its green footprint, that's an
> interesting fact to confirm as this may well be a great opportunity to
> try this out.
>
> Links
> 1.
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:Conference/Kawayashu/Queering_W…
Thanks,
Fae
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 20:47, Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> This has nothing to do with how green WMF operations might be. It has
>>> to do with the greener choices /we/ as volunteers can make for /our/
>>> conferences.
>>>
>>
>> Since a fortnight ago you were haranguing* the WMF for using too much
air
>> travel and lacking "any actual
measurable commitment to picking up a
>> telephone, holding a video conference, or holding a VR conference
> session",
>> it will be interesting to see what solutions you can come up with for
> this
>> conference you're organising. Did you consider the options other than
an
>> in-person conference that you recommended
the WMF adopt, out of
interest?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-09-30/…
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