Hi, Actually, not so much a personel org chart, but rather a general description what the function titles mean (ED, Director, Manager, Chief, Head etc.), which supposedly should be much more stable and therefore easier to grasp? For someone not embedded in US company nomenclature this is all quite confusing and the general description articles on enwiki are not very helpful either...
Lodewijk
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 12:47 AM, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Lodewijk wrote:
In Wikimedian spirit, i would like to take the opportunity to ask the silly question: is the structure of what all titles in Wikimedia mean, described somewhere? Because to be honest, I'm getting all confused about who ranks what in the structure of directors, vice presidents, chiefs, heads, managers and seniors. I was, silly me, always under the impression that a Vice President was basically just below the ED - on the C-level.
I was looking for this info to be perhaps linked from the staff & contractors page on wmfwiki, but i don't seem to be able to find it. Could someone enlighten, and perhaps add it somewhere if not there yet? I recall having asked this question also a few years back and that a list was made, but I can't find it any longer...
Hi.
I think you're talking about an org chart here. The Wikimedia Foundation used to have one, but they're kind of annoying to maintain and any public version basically fell apart years ago. Last I saw, it was a tool on Labs, but it's been through several iterations. The page histories (of the article and the template) on wikimediafoundation.org will have references to it if you go back a few years.
Re: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Template:Staff_and_contractors
The template page includes a table of contents, which is not yet updated to reflect this new department, but is still really helpful for understanding the organization's structure nonetheless. Bonus: that page also auto-expands the sections for faster and easier searching. Viewing the template page instead of the article is a nice little hack for now.
MZMcBride
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Lodewijk,
See the following category on the WMF site: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Category:Job_Descriptions. This contains descriptions of all of the positions hired for since 2007-ish, though it is definitely not necessarily reflective of the role that these positions have in the organizational structure today.
I would agree that a refreshed organizational chart should be provided to the community one of these days by the WMF to reflect the structural changes under the new ED.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 4:49 AM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi, Actually, not so much a personel org chart, but rather a general description what the function titles mean (ED, Director, Manager, Chief, Head etc.), which supposedly should be much more stable and therefore easier to grasp? For someone not embedded in US company nomenclature this is all quite confusing and the general description articles on enwiki are not very helpful either...
Lodewijk
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 12:47 AM, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Lodewijk wrote:
In Wikimedian spirit, i would like to take the opportunity to ask the silly question: is the structure of what all titles in Wikimedia mean, described somewhere? Because to be honest, I'm getting all confused
about
who ranks what in the structure of directors, vice presidents, chiefs, heads, managers and seniors. I was, silly me, always under the
impression
that a Vice President was basically just below the ED - on the C-level.
I was looking for this info to be perhaps linked from the staff & contractors page on wmfwiki, but i don't seem to be able to find it.
Could
someone enlighten, and perhaps add it somewhere if not there yet? I
recall
having asked this question also a few years back and that a list was
made,
but I can't find it any longer...
Hi.
I think you're talking about an org chart here. The Wikimedia Foundation used to have one, but they're kind of annoying to maintain and any public version basically fell apart years ago. Last I saw, it was a tool on
Labs,
but it's been through several iterations. The page histories (of the article and the template) on wikimediafoundation.org will have
references
to it if you go back a few years.
Re: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Template:Staff_and_contractors
The template page includes a table of contents, which is not yet updated to reflect this new department, but is still really helpful for understanding the organization's structure nonetheless. Bonus: that page also auto-expands the sections for faster and easier searching. Viewing the template page instead of the article is a nice little hack for now.
MZMcBride
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Hi Aleksey,
Thank you for the link. However, what I was looking for, was more of a very general description of the difference between the titles in use: director, manager, chief, etc. More in... an encyclopedic way. A link to a relevant Wikipedia article would do the trick too. An organizational chart is useful for individual relationships, but less so for the general big picture.
Best, Lodewijk
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Aleksey Bilogur aleksey.bilogur@gmail.com wrote:
Lodewijk,
See the following category on the WMF site: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Category:Job_Descriptions. This contains descriptions of all of the positions hired for since 2007-ish, though it is definitely not necessarily reflective of the role that these positions have in the organizational structure today.
I would agree that a refreshed organizational chart should be provided to the community one of these days by the WMF to reflect the structural changes under the new ED.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 4:49 AM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi, Actually, not so much a personel org chart, but rather a general description what the function titles mean (ED, Director, Manager, Chief, Head etc.), which supposedly should be much more stable and therefore easier to grasp? For someone not embedded in US company nomenclature this is all quite confusing and the general description articles on enwiki are not very helpful either...
Lodewijk
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 12:47 AM, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Lodewijk wrote:
In Wikimedian spirit, i would like to take the opportunity to ask the silly question: is the structure of what all titles in Wikimedia mean, described somewhere? Because to be honest, I'm getting all confused
about
who ranks what in the structure of directors, vice presidents, chiefs, heads, managers and seniors. I was, silly me, always under the
impression
that a Vice President was basically just below the ED - on the
C-level.
I was looking for this info to be perhaps linked from the staff & contractors page on wmfwiki, but i don't seem to be able to find it.
Could
someone enlighten, and perhaps add it somewhere if not there yet? I
recall
having asked this question also a few years back and that a list was
made,
but I can't find it any longer...
Hi.
I think you're talking about an org chart here. The Wikimedia
Foundation
used to have one, but they're kind of annoying to maintain and any
public
version basically fell apart years ago. Last I saw, it was a tool on
Labs,
but it's been through several iterations. The page histories (of the article and the template) on wikimediafoundation.org will have
references
to it if you go back a few years.
Re:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Template:Staff_and_contractors
The template page includes a table of contents, which is not yet
updated
to reflect this new department, but is still really helpful for understanding the organization's structure nonetheless. Bonus: that
page
also auto-expands the sections for faster and easier searching. Viewing the template page instead of the article is a nice little hack for now.
MZMcBride
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