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Erik Moeller

28 Nov 2012 28 Nov '12

2:49 a.m.

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org> Date: Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:49 PM Subject: Wikimedia/mapping event in Europe early next year? To: maps-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Hi folks, it's been a long time coming, but we're finally gearing up for putting some development effort into an OSM tileservice running in production to serve Wikimedia sites. This is being driven by the mobile team but obviously has lots of non-mobile use cases as well, including the recent Wikivoyage addition to the Wikimedia familiy. This work will probably not kick off before January/February 2013; before then, the mobile team is working to finish up the GeoData extension ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Geodata ). To get broader community involvement and sync up with existing volunteer efforts in this area, it'd IMO be useful to plan a face-to-face meetup/hackfest just focused on geodata/mapping related development work sometime around Feb/March 2013. WMF is not going to organize this, but we can help sponsor travel and bring the key developers from our side who will work on this. Are there any takers for supporting a 20-30 people development event in Europe focused on mapping/geodata? I'm suggesting Europe because I know quite a few of the relevant folks are there, but am open to other options as well. Cheers, Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate

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Richard Symonds

30 Nov 30 Nov

11:41 a.m.

I think WMUK might be able to host something, (possibly) - especially if Tom Morris is around to help! Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Nov 28, 2012 2:50 AM, "Erik Moeller" <erik(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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Tom Morris

5 p.m.

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On Friday, 30 November 2012 at 11:41, Richard Symonds wrote:

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I think WMUK might be able to host something, (possibly) - especially if Tom Morris is around to help!

That sounds like an awful lot of work. I only got into OpenStreetMap because mapping rural footpaths was rather less stressful than arguing about the latest ArbCom dramas on administrative noticeboards. ;-) Seriously though, London would be a good place to have a Wikimedia maps-related technical event. There's an active OpenStreetMap community in London and the UK, and there are potential attendees from the commercial sector who may be able to give advice on the various problems they've encountered and how they've fixed them (Mapbox and Lanyrd, who both use OpenStreetMap as part of their offerings, are based in the UK). -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/>

Andy Mabbett

2 Dec 2 Dec

8:05 a.m.

On Nov 30, 2012 5:00 PM, "Tom Morris" <tom(a)tommorris.org> wrote:

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On Friday, 30 November 2012 at 11:41, Richard Symonds wrote:

I think WMUK might be able to host something, (possibly) - especially if Tom Morris is around to help!

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Seriously though, London would be a good place to have a Wikimedia

maps-related technical event. There's an active OpenStreetMap community in London and the UK, and there are potential attendees from the commercial sector who may be able to give advice on the various problems they've encountered and how they've fixed them (Mapbox and Lanyrd, who both use OpenStreetMap as part of their offerings, are based in the UK).

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And those who've tried and given up in despair, like N0tice (from the Guardian stable)

Andy Mabbett

8:03 a.m.

I would suggest piggy-backing this on OSM's annual State of the Map' event. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Nov 28, 2012 2:49 AM, "Erik Moeller" <erik(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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Cristian Consonni

20 Dec 20 Dec

11:56 a.m.

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2012/11/28 Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org>rg>:

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WMF is not going to organize this, but we can help sponsor travel and bring the key developers from our side who will work on this. Are there any takers for supporting a 20-30 people development event in Europe focused on mapping/geodata? I'm suggesting Europe because I know quite a few of the relevant folks are there, but am open to other options as well.

Hi, Sorry for bringing up this thread again so late, anyway Wikimedia Italia has found a partner who is willing to organize such an event: the "Bruno Kessler Foundation"[1] (FBK). FBK is a research centre in Trento (Italy), which is already active in the field; they are also maintaining the Italian version of DBpedia[2]. The event will be held in Trento. They are rather flexible about the dates, but we are suggesting to organize it around the Wikimedia Conference (the days just before or just after the conference) so to focus our efforts in that period; in this way we could also profit from the fact that some people from the WMF staff will already be in Italy (since the WMConf will be held in Milan). Also, we think that organizing it before April will not give a sufficient notice to other developers who may be interested in participating. We already contacted the Italian OSM community which will help to to get in touch the international community. Is this ok for you, can we start make it moving? =) Cristian WM-IT [1] http://www.fbk.eu [2] http://it.dbpedia.org/

Sumana Harihareswara

25 Dec 25 Dec

2:48 a.m.

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On 12/20/2012 06:56 AM, Cristian Consonni wrote:

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2012/11/28 Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org>rg>:

Sounds potentially good; the one bit of caution, I think, is that if you can't have the event happen in March or early April, you will possibly cause some participants to *choose* between the mapping event and the late May WMNL hackathon, because they can't take the time to travel to both so close together. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013 Best of luck in the planning! -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation

aude

7 Jan 7 Jan

2:45 p.m.

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On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Cristian Consonni <kikkocristian(a)gmail.com

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2012/11/28 Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org>rg>:

Anyone know if this is happening or not? Sometime around the chapters meeting seems as good a time as any. Or maybe attached as a few days before/after the Amsterdam hackathon. (/me not organizing anything, though) I think there will be little overlap between attendees of the chapters meeting and this, whereas I think there's a bit of overlap with the hackathon. Problem is I am not aware of anyone willing to organize anything around the hackathon. Advantage of what Christian proposes is that someone is willing to host and help organize it. :) The longer time goes by without picking a date, the more likely people like me can't come as something else will come up and then they are busy. Cheers, Katie

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Cristian Consonni

5:51 p.m.

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Hi aude, 2013/1/7 aude <aude.wiki(a)gmail.com>om>:

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We are definitely willing to organize it with FBK. We were waiting to hear from the other chapter who expressed some interest. I also got in touch with WM-NL to discuss if they can/are willing to organize the event near the hackaton, since probably that the overlap with that event could be greater, as Sumana proposed. Also, Amsterdam may be a little easier to reach than Trento (I have been told that most of OSM developers are based in Germany or in UK). (I don't mean to put pressure on anybody though) In any case, we will collect some feedback in the next days and then you'll hear from us.

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The longer time goes by without picking a date, the more likely people like me can't come as something else will come up and then they are busy.

That's right. I think that in at most an couple of weeks we will be able to fix some details. Cristian

aude

7:36 p.m.

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On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Cristian Consonni <kikkocristian(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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Hi aude, 2013/1/7 aude <aude.wiki(a)gmail.com>om>:

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help organize it. :)

The longer time goes by without picking a date, the more likely people

me can't come as something else will come up and then they are busy.

That's right. I think that in at most an couple of weeks we will be able to fix some details.

Thank you! I have no preference when or where, but sooner we know the better. Cheers, Katie

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Quim Gil

8 Jan 8 Jan

8:47 p.m.

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>> Anyone know if this is happening or not? Sometime around the chapters >> meeting seems as good a time as any. Or maybe attached as a few days >> before/after the Amsterdam hackathon.

The developers actually involved think that April it's too late. Tomasz Finc and Max Semenik have the lead on our end. They are also convinced that it is better to organize it next to an existing event in order to save organizational effort. This leaves us with Open Source Days, 9-10 March 2013, Copenhagen/Denmark http://www.opensourcedays.org/ What we still miss is a confirmation of the organizers, but the event is held in a business school full of classrooms so I don't expect any problem. See the nice streetmap view of the building at http://www.opensourcedays.org/2012/transport :) I have asked tfinc and MaxSem to forward the relevant emails so I can catch up and confirm the venue asap. Any help from Wikimedia Denmark is welcome, of course. Cristian, your proposal looks very interesting and the only reason not to take it is that the date of the chapters meeting doesn't fit with the developers plans. Would you be open for another tech activity in another occasion? Also, see how different this discussion could have been if we would have got active MediaWiki Groups in the cities mentioned, or the many place we haven't mentioned. Go for a local group and be ready to host the next cool hackathon in the pipeline! :) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups -- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil

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Andy Mabbett
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