I don't see a problem with sending several representatives to the Wikimedia Summit, instead of 1, as would be the case if there was only Wikimedia Russia (that would be a Wikimedia Summit problem). But cells of Wikimedia Russia or other national chapters voting for ASBS elections is a different thing, as it unfairly duplicates the vote of the communities that follow that strategy.
Paulo
Mārtiņš Bruņenieks martinsb@gmail.com escreveu no dia quinta, 3/10/2019 à(s) 21:04:
Hello!
There are different aspects to this trend. In upcoming CEE Meeting in Belgrade there will be 9 people from different affiliates based in Russia. There are other examples you can explore in official participant list from other countries, too [1]
As long as there is no system abuse, I see this as a valid way for Erzya language or different Albanian language communities in different countries to grow their capacity. It might not seem fair, but on the other hand it can seem unfair that in the past both large and small affiliates could send 2 representatives each.
Mārtiņš
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2019/Participants/List
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 10:46 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < paulosperneta@gmail.com> wrote:
Why isn't it a department of Wikimedia Russia, if apparently it's basically a cell of Wikimedia Russia?
It's a curious precedent.
Paulo
Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org escreveu no dia quinta, 3/10/2019 à(s) 20:41:
Ziko: Yes, it is about the major Russian city. And one of its listed contacts is the longstanding president of Wikimedia Russia itself.
Philip: this is not an example of a large country being "split up", since Wikimedia Russia is still around, and was not broken up. It is also not the first user group operating within Russia, nor even the first group with a geographic remit.[1]
A.
[1] e.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don_Wikimedians_User_Group
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 10:34 PM Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Philip,
I was asking the same question - isn't there already a Wikimedia Rossiya - but I guess this is the User Group of Saint Petersburg in Florida (USA), not Sankt Peterburg in Russia. Oh wait... this IS about the city in Russia!
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Saint_Petersburg_User_Group
Kind regards Ziko
Am Do., 3. Okt. 2019 um 16:15 Uhr schrieb Philip Kopetzky < philip.kopetzky@gmail.com>:
Hi Kirill,
so it seems like geographically large countries are being split up
into
different user groups - do you think that this is a viable model for
the
future or just happened because of certain circumstances within the
Russian
community? Would your template allow a User Group from Rome, Paris,
Munich
or Sydney for example?
Best, Philip
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 12:20, Kirill Lokshin <kirill.lokshin@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has
recognized
[1] the Wikimedians of Saint Petersburg User Group [2] as a
Wikimedia
User
Group. The group aims to unite Wikimedians living in St.
Petersburg, to
support the development of content on topics related to St.
Petersburg
across different Wikimedia projects, to promote the Wikimedia
projects
and
movement in St. Petersburg, and to build partnerships between the
Wikimedia
community and cultural, scientific, educational, and media
institutions
in
St. Petersburg.
Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
Regards, Kirill Lokshin Chair, Affiliations Committee
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recogniti...
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Saint_Petersburg_User_Group
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