Not quite Wikimedia related, but fantastic news:
Harvard faculty advisory council says scientific publishers have made scholarly communication 'fiscally unsustainable' http://t.co/CcKSHlqX
Excellent news!
(for the confused -- this is a good post to read: http://fakeelsevier.wordpress.com/2012/02/19/dear-elsevier-employees-with-lo... [Feb 2012])
A.
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Richard Symonds < richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
Not quite Wikimedia related, but fantastic news:
Harvard faculty advisory council says scientific publishers have made scholarly communication 'fiscally unsustainable' http://t.co/CcKSHlqX _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
This took place in April. Sorry to be a stickler about the date. Any updates that we know of?
-Sarah
On 1/14/13 4:28 PM, Richard Symonds wrote:
Not quite Wikimedia related, but fantastic news:
Harvard faculty advisory council says scientific publishers have made scholarly communication 'fiscally unsustainable' http://t.co/CcKSHlqX _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Good lord, so it did. My apologies! It was making the rounds tonight and my excitement got the better of me.
This is why I don't work in communications! On Jan 15, 2013 12:44 AM, "Sarah Stierch" sarah.stierch@gmail.com wrote:
This took place in April. Sorry to be a stickler about the date. Any updates that we know of?
-Sarah
On 1/14/13 4:28 PM, Richard Symonds wrote:
Not quite Wikimedia related, but fantastic news:
Harvard faculty advisory council says scientific publishers have made scholarly communication 'fiscally unsustainable' http://t.co/CcKSHlqX ______________________________**_________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
-- *Sarah Stierch* */Museumist and open culture advocate/*
Visit sarahstierch.com http://sarahstierch.com<<
______________________________**_________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
No big deal. I had never seen it, and I'm sure I'm not the only one :)
Now we just have an excuse to nag Harvard to see if anything is coming from it!
-Sarah
On 1/14/13 4:48 PM, Richard Symonds wrote:
Good lord, so it did. My apologies! It was making the rounds tonight and my excitement got the better of me.
This is why I don't work in communications! On Jan 15, 2013 12:44 AM, "Sarah Stierch" sarah.stierch@gmail.com wrote:
This took place in April. Sorry to be a stickler about the date. Any updates that we know of?
-Sarah
On 1/14/13 4:28 PM, Richard Symonds wrote:
Not quite Wikimedia related, but fantastic news:
Harvard faculty advisory council says scientific publishers have made scholarly communication 'fiscally unsustainable' http://t.co/CcKSHlqX ______________________________**_________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
-- *Sarah Stierch* */Museumist and open culture advocate/*
Visit sarahstierch.com http://sarahstierch.com<<
______________________________**_________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Don't worry, Richard, this news is now hot, but the situation din't progress that much from what it could be.
We have the Busapest Open Access Initiative since 2002 http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/openaccess/read. We can find videos of professor Jean-Claude Guédon, one of the person who wrote this initiative one decade ago, explaining in details the logics behind all this.
The publish (on closed journals) or perish still reigns in the academia, so it is very important we explain the importance of knowledge to be free for every single person we meet. Still a lot to do.
Tom
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
Good lord, so it did. My apologies! It was making the rounds tonight and my excitement got the better of me.
This is why I don't work in communications!
There is also Access2Research < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Access2Research > about free research articles in the Us.
On 2013-01-14 21:06, "Everton Zanella Alvarenga" ezalvarenga@wikimedia.org wrote:
Don't worry, Richard, this news is now hot, but the situation din't progress that much from what it could be.
We have the Busapest Open Access Initiative since 2002 http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/openaccess/read. We can find videos of professor Jean-Claude Guédon, one of the person who wrote this initiative one decade ago, explaining in details the logics behind all this.
The publish (on closed journals) or perish still reigns in the academia, so it is very important we explain the importance of knowledge to be free for every single person we meet. Still a lot to do.
Tom
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
Good lord, so it did. My apologies! It was making the rounds tonight and my excitement got the better of me.
This is why I don't work in communications!
I'm sorry, let me a pedant librarian:
* the topic of Access to research has been mainly referred to with the term Open Access. You will find tons of material with that name.
* we have a Wikimedian in Residence for Open Access, Daniel Mietchen.
* *Open Access and the divide between “mainstream” and “peripheral” science* is a great essay by Guédon (underlines some social drawbacks of the current publishing system), one of the best I read. You can find it here: http://eprints.rclis.org/12156
* *Reinventing discovery* is a great 2011 book from Michael Nielsen, it speaks about Open Access and also crowdsourcing in escience. Very interesting.
* the folks at archiveteam set up this: http://aaronsw.archiveteam.org/ It is not properly legal, read it all.
* if you want to publish in/read a OA journal, find it here: http://www.doaj.org
As for us, the Wikimedia movement, we can definetely do more. It is just a matter of tactics, but we want this, so make it happen.
Aubrey
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Etienne Beaule betienne@bellaliant.netwrote:
There is also Access2Research < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Access2Research > about free research articles in the Us.
On 2013-01-14 21:06, "Everton Zanella Alvarenga" < ezalvarenga@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Don't worry, Richard, this news is now hot, but the situation din't progress that much from what it could be.
We have the Busapest Open Access Initiative since 2002 http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/openaccess/read. We can find videos of professor Jean-Claude Guédon, one of the person who wrote this initiative one decade ago, explaining in details the logics behind all this.
The publish (on closed journals) or perish still reigns in the academia, so it is very important we explain the importance of knowledge to be free for every single person we meet. Still a lot to do.
Tom
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
Good lord, so it did. My apologies! It was making the rounds tonight
and my
excitement got the better of me.
This is why I don't work in communications!
Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
On 15 January 2013 08:26, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
- the folks at archiveteam set up this: http://aaronsw.archiveteam.org/ It
is not properly legal, read it all.
Note, btw, that this page was set up for humorous purposes - the papers it "liberates" are the public domain papers JSTOR has recently made freely available. The one "not properly legal" thing the user does is do something outside the JSTOR terms of service.
- d.
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:30 AM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Note, btw, that this page was set up for humorous purposes - the papers it "liberates" are the public domain papers JSTOR has recently made freely available. The one "not properly legal" thing the user does is do something outside the JSTOR terms of service.
Thanks for clarifying this, I actually thought so, but wasn't sure.
Aubrey
David Gerard, 15/01/2013 09:30:
On 15 January 2013 08:26, Andrea Zannizanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
- the folks at archiveteam set up this: http://aaronsw.archiveteam.org/ It
is not properly legal, read it all.
Note, btw, that this page was set up for humorous purposes - the papers it "liberates" are the public domain papers JSTOR has recently made freely available. The one "not properly legal" thing the user does is do something outside the JSTOR terms of service.
I'm also an ArchiveTeam member, and the JSTOR liberator was definitely NOT set up for humorous purposes: it's a serious project, and everyone should consider joining. For the occasion, it also gives people the option to add a message of memorial about Aaron.
Nemo
On 15/01/13 09:50, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
David Gerard, 15/01/2013 09:30:
On 15 January 2013 08:26, Andrea Zannizanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
- the folks at archiveteam set up this:
http://aaronsw.archiveteam.org/ It is not properly legal, read it all.
Note, btw, that this page was set up for humorous purposes - the papers it "liberates" are the public domain papers JSTOR has recently made freely available. The one "not properly legal" thing the user does is do something outside the JSTOR terms of service.
I'm also an ArchiveTeam member, and the JSTOR liberator was definitely NOT set up for humorous purposes: it's a serious project, and everyone should consider joining. For the occasion, it also gives people the option to add a message of memorial about Aaron.
I'd just like to remind that while people who liberate documents do violate JSTOR's TOS, people who subsequently access the documents have never agreed to the TOS and are not bound by it, so everything should be perfectly legal for them.
Nikola Smolenski, 15/01/2013 09:59:
On 15/01/13 09:50, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
I'm also an ArchiveTeam member, and the JSTOR liberator was definitely NOT set up for humorous purposes: it's a serious project, and everyone should consider joining. For the occasion, it also gives people the option to add a message of memorial about Aaron.
I'd just like to remind that while people who liberate documents do violate JSTOR's TOS, people who subsequently access the documents have never agreed to the TOS and are not bound by it, so everything should be perfectly legal for them.
Sure, thanks for reminding. That's why we were able to share on archive.org the JSTOR PD Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London shared by gmaxwell, a year ago: https://archive.org/details/philosophicaltransactions
Nemo
http://aubreymcfato.com/2013/01/15/how-to-exploit-academics/ is a brief and amusing analogy to what the academic publishing racket is like. It's particularly poignant in that it really is the case because academics put up with it, and for no other reason.
(of course, for them to stop putting up with it, a significant minority would have to lay their careers, or existing reputations, on the line. Hence the inertia.)
A.
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:29 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.comwrote:
Nikola Smolenski, 15/01/2013 09:59:
On 15/01/13 09:50, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
I'm also an ArchiveTeam member, and the JSTOR liberator was definitely NOT set up for humorous purposes: it's a serious project, and everyone should consider joining. For the occasion, it also gives people the option to add a message of memorial about Aaron.
I'd just like to remind that while people who liberate documents do violate JSTOR's TOS, people who subsequently access the documents have never agreed to the TOS and are not bound by it, so everything should be perfectly legal for them.
Sure, thanks for reminding. That's why we were able to share on archive.org the JSTOR PD Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London shared by gmaxwell, a year ago: <https://archive.org/details/** philosophicaltransactionshttps://archive.org/details/philosophicaltransactions
Nemo
______________________________**_________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org