According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with something called the "Request Network" for cryptocurrency donations. Also this article here
https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce-partenariat-fon...
Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just wikimedia france:
https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
Is some form of clarification possible?
Hi Geni,
Have you asked executive members of Wikimedia France? I think they are in the best position to answer you question.
Regards,
Isaac.
On Apr 27, 2018 2:49 PM, "geni" geniice@gmail.com wrote:
According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with something called the "Request Network" for cryptocurrency donations. Also this article here
https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france- annonce-partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter- donations-crypto-monnaies/
Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just wikimedia france:
https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
Is some form of clarification possible?
-- geni
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Definitly confusing.
See also this : https://blog.request.network/request-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-...
Florence
Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :
According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with something called the "Request Network" for cryptocurrency donations. Also this article here
https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce-partenariat-fon...
Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just wikimedia france:
https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
Is some form of clarification possible?
While the WMF accepts bitcoin this claim is definitely concerning
"the Wikimedia Foundation reinforces its leading status by widely integrating blockchain technology on its platform"
Have cc'ed Chuck from legal regarding potential trademark issues.
James
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Devouard (gmail) fdevouard@gmail.com wrote:
Definitly confusing.
See also this : https://blog.request.network/r equest-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership- with-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
Florence
Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :
According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with something called the "Request Network" for cryptocurrency donations. Also this article here
https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce -partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations- crypto-monnaies/
Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just wikimedia france:
https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
Is some form of clarification possible?
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Yes, the platform claim is far from accurate.
Best regards,
Victoria
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 27, 2018, at 7:27 AM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
While the WMF accepts bitcoin this claim is definitely concerning
"the Wikimedia Foundation reinforces its leading status by widely integrating blockchain technology on its platform"
Have cc'ed Chuck from legal regarding potential trademark issues.
James
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Devouard (gmail) fdevouard@gmail.com wrote:
Definitly confusing.
See also this : https://blog.request.network/r equest-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership- with-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
Florence
Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :
According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with something called the "Request Network" for cryptocurrency donations. Also this article here
https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce -partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations- crypto-monnaies/
Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just wikimedia france:
https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
Is some form of clarification possible?
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We in Belgium received a mail with a question if we want to work together with a blockchain organisation. For us to develop that it is too much work, and we suggested them to contact WMF to develop a system we could easily adopt ourselves.
It can be interesting to use blockchain technology in our movement for transparency purposes.
Romaine
Op vrijdag 27 april 2018 heeft Victoria Coleman vcoleman@wikimedia.org het volgende geschreven:
Yes, the platform claim is far from accurate.
Best regards,
Victoria
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 27, 2018, at 7:27 AM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
While the WMF accepts bitcoin this claim is definitely concerning
"the Wikimedia Foundation reinforces its leading status by widely integrating blockchain technology on its platform"
Have cc'ed Chuck from legal regarding potential trademark issues.
James
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Devouard (gmail) fdevouard@gmail.com wrote:
Definitly confusing.
See also this : https://blog.request.network/r equest-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership- with-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
Florence
Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :
According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with something called the "Request Network" for cryptocurrency donations. Also this article here
https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce -partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations- crypto-monnaies/
Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just wikimedia france:
https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
Is some form of clarification possible?
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On 27 April 2018 at 16:42, Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
It can be interesting to use blockchain technology in our movement for transparency purposes.
Romaine
Not really. At best you end up with a less efficient version of a downloadable database. People claiming that "blockchain technology" is useful for things are either cyptocurrency advocates (with the usual conflicts of interest) or third parties trying to be nice to them.
It can be interesting to use blockchain technology in our movement for transparency purposes.
... Not really. At best you end up with a less efficient version of a downloadable database....
Less efficient unless a government authority is attempting to censor.
After advocating all this year for the Turkish Wikipedia on IPFS, I very recently learned that it has been a success for a year now:
https://ipfs.io/blog/24-uncensorable-wikipedia/
http://observer.com/2017/05/turkey-wikipedia-ipfs/
So I propose that we use IPFS for any project that is at risk of government censorship.
Best regards, Jim
On 27 April 2018 at 17:21, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
Not really. At best you end up with a less efficient version of a downloadable database. People claiming that "blockchain technology" is useful for things are either cyptocurrency advocates (with the usual conflicts of interest) or third parties trying to be nice to them.
seconded. Actual blockchain expert here! As in, I wrote a book about it that's sold well and the BBC calls me an expert now.
Just for readers of this list, as copyright holder I hereby grant you permission to download this copy:
http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=41A766EE9752E757169A46C936C2EC17
(like I could stop anyone anyway)
tl;dr "blockchain" anything is a boondoggle at best and horribly damaging at worst, and you really don't want to go near this actively terrible rubbish.
- d.
TrustNodes tested out Request's donation offering:
https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/04/27/request-network-partners-wikimedia-lau...
tl;dr it's incredibly clunky, painful and disappointing and largely doesn't work. Also, it only offers Ethereum.
On a related note, I notice the WMF Bitcoin gateway currently uses Coinbase's merchant option to accept cryptos and then pay the charity on dollars (so WMF never touches a crypto). Coinbase are deprecating this shortly, going to a model where the merchant has an account on Coinbase and cashing out is their own problem. What will happen to the WMF bitcoin option? https://medium.com/@coinbasecommerce/upgrading-the-merchant-experience-d9767...
(I'm just writing up this terrible story for my blockchain blog.)
- d.
On 27 April 2018 at 19:05, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 April 2018 at 17:21, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
Not really. At best you end up with a less efficient version of a downloadable database. People claiming that "blockchain technology" is useful for things are either cyptocurrency advocates (with the usual conflicts of interest) or third parties trying to be nice to them.
seconded. Actual blockchain expert here! As in, I wrote a book about it that's sold well and the BBC calls me an expert now.
Just for readers of this list, as copyright holder I hereby grant you permission to download this copy:
http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=41A766EE9752E757169A46C936C2EC17
(like I could stop anyone anyway)
tl;dr "blockchain" anything is a boondoggle at best and horribly damaging at worst, and you really don't want to go near this actively terrible rubbish.
- d.
Wrote up the story so far:
https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2018/04/27/no-wikipedia-is-not-partneri...
Any new stuff, corrections, clarifications etc most welcomed!
- d.
On 27 April 2018 at 21:04, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
TrustNodes tested out Request's donation offering:
https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/04/27/request-network- partners-wikimedia-launching-beta-plus-test-run-review- digital-codable-invoices
tl;dr it's incredibly clunky, painful and disappointing and largely doesn't work. Also, it only offers Ethereum.
On a related note, I notice the WMF Bitcoin gateway currently uses Coinbase's merchant option to accept cryptos and then pay the charity on dollars (so WMF never touches a crypto). Coinbase are deprecating this shortly, going to a model where the merchant has an account on Coinbase and cashing out is their own problem. What will happen to the WMF bitcoin option? https://medium.com/@coinbasecommerce/upgrading-the-merchant-experience- d97679274c71
(I'm just writing up this terrible story for my blockchain blog.)
- d.
On 27 April 2018 at 19:05, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 April 2018 at 17:21, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
Not really. At best you end up with a less efficient version of a downloadable database. People claiming that "blockchain technology" is useful for things are either cyptocurrency advocates (with the usual conflicts of interest) or third parties trying to be nice to them.
seconded. Actual blockchain expert here! As in, I wrote a book about it that's sold well and the BBC calls me an expert now.
Just for readers of this list, as copyright holder I hereby grant you permission to download this copy:
http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=41A766EE9752E757169A46C936C2EC17
(like I could stop anyone anyway)
tl;dr "blockchain" anything is a boondoggle at best and horribly damaging at worst, and you really don't want to go near this actively terrible rubbish.
- d.
You surely saw the same dudes who sold anything as "Internet of things" a couple of years ago selling the same black boxes as "blockchain" now. I expect these black boxes to be labeled as "enhanced by artificial intelligence" by mid 2019 :D
Vito
2018-04-27 20:05 GMT+02:00 David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com:
On 27 April 2018 at 17:21, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
Not really. At best you end up with a less efficient version of a downloadable database. People claiming that "blockchain technology" is useful for things are either cyptocurrency advocates (with the usual conflicts of interest) or third parties trying to be nice to them.
seconded. Actual blockchain expert here! As in, I wrote a book about it that's sold well and the BBC calls me an expert now.
Just for readers of this list, as copyright holder I hereby grant you permission to download this copy:
http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=41A766EE9752E757169A46C936C2EC17
(like I could stop anyone anyway)
tl;dr "blockchain" anything is a boondoggle at best and horribly damaging at worst, and you really don't want to go near this actively terrible rubbish.
- d.
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Hi all,
First of all, thanks for reporting the issue. Impressive reactivity :)
Then, sorry for the intempestive and unwelcome communication about this local partnership. The agreement is quite clear, it has been established by Wikimédia France (of course *not* in name of Wikimedia Foundation) and our partners are obviously *not allowed* to use any of Wikimedia projects marks.
Today, Request Network updated their posts to clarify things and suppressed Wikipedia logo from their communication messages : — https://www.reddit.com/r/RequestNetwork/comments/8firkq/ update_to_clarify_wikimedia_france_partnership/ — https://blog.request.network/request-network-project-update-april-27th- 2018-partnership-with-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
We updated our blog post as well, with an introductive warning : — https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france- annonce-partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter- donations-crypto-monnaies/
After the week-end and labor day (1 May), we are expecting that all occurrences of this misunderstanding have disappeared.
Nadine Le Lirzin
*Secretary of the Board* *Wikimédia France *
2018-04-27 16:23 GMT+02:00 Devouard (gmail) fdevouard@gmail.com:
Definitly confusing.
See also this : https://blog.request.network/r equest-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership- with-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
Florence
Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :
According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with something called the "Request Network" for cryptocurrency donations. Also this article here
https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce -partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations- crypto-monnaies/
Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just wikimedia france:
https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
Is some form of clarification possible?
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Logo still at the bottom of https://request.network
- d.
On 28 April 2018 at 16:12, Nadine Le Lirzin nlelirzin@wikimedia.fr wrote:
Hi all,
First of all, thanks for reporting the issue. Impressive reactivity :)
Then, sorry for the intempestive and unwelcome communication about this local partnership. The agreement is quite clear, it has been established by Wikimédia France (of course *not* in name of Wikimedia Foundation) and our partners are obviously *not allowed* to use any of Wikimedia projects marks.
Today, Request Network updated their posts to clarify things and suppressed Wikipedia logo from their communication messages : — https://www.reddit.com/r/RequestNetwork/comments/8firkq/ update_to_clarify_wikimedia_france_partnership/ — https://blog.request.network/request-network-project-update-april-27th- 2018-partnership-with-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
We updated our blog post as well, with an introductive warning : — https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france- annonce-partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter- donations-crypto-monnaies/
After the week-end and labor day (1 May), we are expecting that all occurrences of this misunderstanding have disappeared.
Nadine Le Lirzin
*Secretary of the Board* *Wikimédia France *
2018-04-27 16:23 GMT+02:00 Devouard (gmail) fdevouard@gmail.com:
Definitly confusing.
See also this : https://blog.request.network/r equest-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership- with-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
Florence
Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :
According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with something called the "Request Network" for cryptocurrency donations. Also this article here
https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce -partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations- crypto-monnaies/
Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just wikimedia france:
https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
Is some form of clarification possible?
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Ok, thanks David,
nll
2018-04-28 17:15 GMT+02:00 David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com:
Logo still at the bottom of https://request.network
- d.
On 28 April 2018 at 16:12, Nadine Le Lirzin nlelirzin@wikimedia.fr wrote:
Hi all,
First of all, thanks for reporting the issue. Impressive reactivity :)
Then, sorry for the intempestive and unwelcome communication about this local partnership. The agreement is quite clear, it has been established
by
Wikimédia France (of course *not* in name of Wikimedia Foundation) and
our
partners are obviously *not allowed* to use any of Wikimedia projects marks.
Today, Request Network updated their posts to clarify things and
suppressed
Wikipedia logo from their communication messages : — https://www.reddit.com/r/RequestNetwork/comments/8firkq/ update_to_clarify_wikimedia_france_partnership/ — https://blog.request.network/request-network-project-
update-april-27th-
2018-partnership-with-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
We updated our blog post as well, with an introductive warning : — https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france- annonce-partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter- donations-crypto-monnaies/
After the week-end and labor day (1 May), we are expecting that all occurrences of this misunderstanding have disappeared.
Nadine Le Lirzin
*Secretary of the Board* *Wikimédia France *
2018-04-27 16:23 GMT+02:00 Devouard (gmail) fdevouard@gmail.com:
Definitly confusing.
See also this : https://blog.request.network/r equest-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership- with-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
Florence
Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :
According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with something called the "Request Network" for cryptocurrency donations. Also this article here
https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce -partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations- crypto-monnaies/
Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just wikimedia france:
https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
Is some form of clarification possible?
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Hi all,
Update on the topic.
Since Request Network were so slow and reluctant to change their delusive communication into a fair and clean information, Wikimédia France broke the agreement with them. Thus, this partnership is over.
We deleted our blog post about it. And we keep on trying to obtain the same from Request Network (who are turning a deaf ear until now).
Once again, sorry for the noise and thanks for alerting us,
Nadine Le Lirzin *Secrétaire du conseil d'administration* *Wikimédia France*
*Post-scriptum:* no other cryptocurrency donations project is planned ^^'
2018-04-28 17:12 GMT+02:00 Nadine Le Lirzin nlelirzin@wikimedia.fr:
Hi all,
First of all, thanks for reporting the issue. Impressive reactivity :)
Then, sorry for the intempestive and unwelcome communication about this local partnership. The agreement is quite clear, it has been established by Wikimédia France (of course *not* in name of Wikimedia Foundation) and our partners are obviously *not allowed* to use any of Wikimedia projects marks.
Today, Request Network updated their posts to clarify things and suppressed Wikipedia logo from their communication messages : — https://www.reddit.com/r/RequestNetwork/comments/8firkq/up date_to_clarify_wikimedia_france_partnership/ — https://blog.request.network/request-network-project- update-april-27th-2018-partnership-with-wikimedia- woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
We updated our blog post as well, with an introductive warning : — https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annon ce-partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations- crypto-monnaies/
After the week-end and labor day (1 May), we are expecting that all occurrences of this misunderstanding have disappeared.
Nadine Le Lirzin
*Secretary of the Board* *Wikimédia France *
2018-04-27 16:23 GMT+02:00 Devouard (gmail) fdevouard@gmail.com:
Definitly confusing.
See also this : https://blog.request.network/r equest-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership-wi th-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
Florence
Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :
According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with something called the "Request Network" for cryptocurrency donations. Also this article here
https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce -partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations-cr ypto-monnaies/
Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just wikimedia france:
https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
Is some form of clarification possible?
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Hi Nadine, thank you for this update.
Does the French Chapter have a position on replacing bitcoin mining with foldingcoin (http://foldingcoin.net)? I hope that all Wikimedians will oppose the wasteful consumption of electricity when useful alternatives exist.
Best regards, Jim
On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 7:50 AM, Nadine Le Lirzin nlelirzin@wikimedia.fr wrote:
Hi all,
Update on the topic.
Since Request Network were so slow and reluctant to change their delusive communication into a fair and clean information, Wikimédia France broke the agreement with them. Thus, this partnership is over.
We deleted our blog post about it. And we keep on trying to obtain the same from Request Network (who are turning a deaf ear until now).
Once again, sorry for the noise and thanks for alerting us,
Nadine Le Lirzin *Secrétaire du conseil d'administration* *Wikimédia France*
*Post-scriptum:* no other cryptocurrency donations project is planned ^^'
2018-04-28 17:12 GMT+02:00 Nadine Le Lirzin nlelirzin@wikimedia.fr:
Hi all,
First of all, thanks for reporting the issue. Impressive reactivity :)
Then, sorry for the intempestive and unwelcome communication about this local partnership. The agreement is quite clear, it has been established by Wikimédia France (of course *not* in name of Wikimedia Foundation) and our partners are obviously *not allowed* to use any of Wikimedia projects marks.
Today, Request Network updated their posts to clarify things and suppressed Wikipedia logo from their communication messages : — https://www.reddit.com/r/RequestNetwork/comments/8firkq/up date_to_clarify_wikimedia_france_partnership/ — https://blog.request.network/request-network-project- update-april-27th-2018-partnership-with-wikimedia- woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
We updated our blog post as well, with an introductive warning : — https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annon ce-partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations- crypto-monnaies/
After the week-end and labor day (1 May), we are expecting that all occurrences of this misunderstanding have disappeared.
Nadine Le Lirzin
*Secretary of the Board* *Wikimédia France *
2018-04-27 16:23 GMT+02:00 Devouard (gmail) fdevouard@gmail.com:
Definitly confusing.
See also this : https://blog.request.network/r equest-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership-wi th-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
Florence
Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :
According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with something called the "Request Network" for cryptocurrency donations. Also this article here
https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce -partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations-cr ypto-monnaies/
Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just wikimedia france:
https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
Is some form of clarification possible?
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Hello,
I'm but a simple member of Wikimedia France, but I trust the Post Scriptum by Nadine was clear on the matter : "no other cryptocurrency donations project is planned". And yes, I believe that includes Foldingcoin. Personally, I'm fond of Folding@Home, I've even given more than my fair share of processing time to the project some time ago ; but I don't need to receive hard cash in return - especially when it's neither hard nor cash. Whether you like it or not, it does waste electricity when an alternative exists : the old way of having people pay dimes for a wee bit of electricity to calculate protein folding instead of the new way of performing copious calculations for the blockchain and a few cheap protein foldings on the side. It doesn't matter what the end goal is, even as laudable as F@H : a blockchain is and always will be calculation-expensive, thus a waste of electricity, by its very design. And Foldingcoin still relies on it. Please don't be "that guy", and stick to F@H rather than push for FLDC.
Roger / Alphos
2018-05-28 17:23 GMT+02:00 James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com:
Hi Nadine, thank you for this update.
Does the French Chapter have a position on replacing bitcoin mining with foldingcoin (http://foldingcoin.net)? I hope that all Wikimedians will oppose the wasteful consumption of electricity when useful alternatives exist.
Best regards, Jim
On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 7:50 AM, Nadine Le Lirzin nlelirzin@wikimedia.fr wrote:
Hi all,
Update on the topic.
Since Request Network were so slow and reluctant to change their delusive communication into a fair and clean information, Wikimédia France broke
the
agreement with them. Thus, this partnership is over.
We deleted our blog post about it. And we keep on trying to obtain the
same
from Request Network (who are turning a deaf ear until now).
Once again, sorry for the noise and thanks for alerting us,
Nadine Le Lirzin *Secrétaire du conseil d'administration* *Wikimédia France*
*Post-scriptum:* no other cryptocurrency donations project is planned ^^'
2018-04-28 17:12 GMT+02:00 Nadine Le Lirzin nlelirzin@wikimedia.fr:
Hi all,
First of all, thanks for reporting the issue. Impressive reactivity :)
Then, sorry for the intempestive and unwelcome communication about this local partnership. The agreement is quite clear, it has been
established by
Wikimédia France (of course *not* in name of Wikimedia Foundation) and our partners are obviously *not allowed* to use any of Wikimedia
projects
marks.
Today, Request Network updated their posts to clarify things and suppressed Wikipedia logo from their communication messages : — https://www.reddit.com/r/RequestNetwork/comments/8firkq/up date_to_clarify_wikimedia_france_partnership/ — https://blog.request.network/request-network-project- update-april-27th-2018-partnership-with-wikimedia- woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
We updated our blog post as well, with an introductive warning : — https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annon ce-partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations- crypto-monnaies/
After the week-end and labor day (1 May), we are expecting that all occurrences of this misunderstanding have disappeared.
Nadine Le Lirzin
*Secretary of the Board* *Wikimédia France *
2018-04-27 16:23 GMT+02:00 Devouard (gmail) fdevouard@gmail.com:
Definitly confusing.
See also this : https://blog.request.network/r equest-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership-wi th-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
Florence
Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :
According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with something called the "Request Network" for cryptocurrency donations. Also this article here
https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce -partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations-cr ypto-monnaies/
Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just wikimedia france:
https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
Is some form of clarification possible?
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Hi James,
Le lun. 28 mai 2018 à 17:24, James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com a écrit :
Hi Nadine, thank you for this update.
Does the French Chapter have a position on replacing bitcoin mining with foldingcoin (http://foldingcoin.net)? I hope that all Wikimedians will oppose the wasteful consumption of electricity when useful alternatives exist.
The French Chapter does not use any crypto money at all right now.
Best, Sylvain
Best regards, Jim
On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 7:50 AM, Nadine Le Lirzin nlelirzin@wikimedia.fr wrote:
Hi all,
Update on the topic.
Since Request Network were so slow and reluctant to change their delusive communication into a fair and clean information, Wikimédia France broke
the
agreement with them. Thus, this partnership is over.
We deleted our blog post about it. And we keep on trying to obtain the
same
from Request Network (who are turning a deaf ear until now).
Once again, sorry for the noise and thanks for alerting us,
Nadine Le Lirzin *Secrétaire du conseil d'administration* *Wikimédia France*
*Post-scriptum:* no other cryptocurrency donations project is planned ^^'
2018-04-28 17:12 GMT+02:00 Nadine Le Lirzin nlelirzin@wikimedia.fr:
Hi all,
First of all, thanks for reporting the issue. Impressive reactivity :)
Then, sorry for the intempestive and unwelcome communication about this local partnership. The agreement is quite clear, it has been
established by
Wikimédia France (of course *not* in name of Wikimedia Foundation) and our partners are obviously *not allowed* to use any of Wikimedia
projects
marks.
Today, Request Network updated their posts to clarify things and suppressed Wikipedia logo from their communication messages : — https://www.reddit.com/r/RequestNetwork/comments/8firkq/up date_to_clarify_wikimedia_france_partnership/ — https://blog.request.network/request-network-project- update-april-27th-2018-partnership-with-wikimedia- woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
We updated our blog post as well, with an introductive warning : — https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annon ce-partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations- crypto-monnaies/
After the week-end and labor day (1 May), we are expecting that all occurrences of this misunderstanding have disappeared.
Nadine Le Lirzin
*Secretary of the Board* *Wikimédia France *
2018-04-27 16:23 GMT+02:00 Devouard (gmail) fdevouard@gmail.com:
Definitly confusing.
See also this : https://blog.request.network/r equest-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-partnership-wi th-wikimedia-woocommerce-plugin-c598372e9b58
Florence
Le 27/04/2018 à 15:49, geni a écrit :
According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with something called the "Request Network" for cryptocurrency donations. Also this article here
https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce -partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter-donations-cr ypto-monnaies/
Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just wikimedia france:
https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
Is some form of clarification possible?
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Sorry it's a mistake, the partnership is with WMFr. We will correct that tweet.
Pyb
Le ven. 27 avr. 2018 à 15:49, geni geniice@gmail.com a écrit :
According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with something called the "Request Network" for cryptocurrency donations. Also this article here
https://www.wikimedia.fr/2018/04/27/wikimedia-france-annonce-partenariat-fon...
Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just wikimedia france:
https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
Is some form of clarification possible?
-- geni
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This also needs correcting https://blog.request.network/request-network-project-update-april-27th-2018-...
Also I am not sure use of the Wikipedia logo is appropriate as it is not an partnership with Wikipedia.
James
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Pierre-Yves Beaudouin < pierre.beaudouin@wikimedia.fr> wrote:
Sorry it's a mistake, the partnership is with WMFr. We will correct that tweet.
Pyb
Le ven. 27 avr. 2018 à 15:49, geni geniice@gmail.com a écrit :
According to their twitter feed they have announced a partnership with something called the "Request Network" for cryptocurrency donations. Also this article here
annonce-partenariat-fondation-request-network-accepter- donations-crypto-monnaies/
Ok. I don't approve but I'm not french so not its not an area where I can reasonably expect anyone to pay any attention to my opinions.
What concerns me is that they have retweeted something claiming the partnership is with the wikimedia foundation rather than just wikimedia france:
https://twitter.com/wikimedia_fr?lang=en
Is some form of clarification possible?
-- geni
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