On 10/29/11 12:40 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: There have been LOADS of opportunities where the community is asked, begged to be involved in what will be the way forward. The most obvious opportunity has been the Strategy project. At this time the Wikimedia Foundation is looking for all sorts of volunteers that are asked to help determine what future functionality will be like. Specifically I want to mention the need for "language support teams" and volunteers for our mobile development.

The position of the WMF as I know it is that it wants very much an involved community. To be effective, it is important for the community to be involved early in the process.

Sadly the foundation is only able to communicate their wishes when she wants to.

The fundraiser banner is always pushed into all communities, we cannot ignore it. Other subjects are more or less hidden in meta and discussed in English only.

Vector and the Filter are the latest examples, which caused some resistance. The changes of the terms is another one. The German version was published at the end of the discussion on meta. And there was definetely no announcement like: "Hey, it's time to collect some money" on all pages.

So dont tell us again we are too late.

Carsten

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