http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting
For what it's worth, I would find it productive if some participants on this list thought about sometimes *not* top-posting, but trimming the message they're responding to so as to make it clear *what* and *who* it is they're responding to. In threads with 50+ emails and delayed responses, it makes reading much easier.
Thank you,
Delphine
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Okay. ;)
- - Cary
Delphine Ménard wrote: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting | | For what it's worth, I would find it productive if some participants | on this list thought about sometimes *not* top-posting, but trimming | the message they're responding to so as to make it clear *what* and | *who* it is they're responding to. In threads with 50+ emails and | delayed responses, it makes reading much easier. | | Thank you, | | Delphine |
From that article: "While top-posting is sometimes recommended
against, it is the more common style in business email correspondence."
Why complain about something that is common practice? With most e-mail clients, it will take an extra effort to do what you suggest, and I see no reason to do so.
Mark
2008/4/30 Delphine Ménard notafishz@gmail.com:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting
For what it's worth, I would find it productive if some participants on this list thought about sometimes *not* top-posting, but trimming the message they're responding to so as to make it clear *what* and *who* it is they're responding to. In threads with 50+ emails and delayed responses, it makes reading much easier.
Thank you,
Delphine
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Especially since nearly all modern email clients have color coding, indenting, and other ways of distinguishing who posted what in what order, makind top posting not much of an issue.
-Dan On Apr 30, 2008, at 2:57 PM, Mark Williamson wrote:
From that article: "While top-posting is sometimes recommended against, it is the more common style in business email correspondence."
Why complain about something that is common practice? With most e-mail clients, it will take an extra effort to do what you suggest, and I see no reason to do so.
Mark
2008/4/30 Delphine Ménard notafishz@gmail.com:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting
For what it's worth, I would find it productive if some participants on this list thought about sometimes *not* top-posting, but trimming the message they're responding to so as to make it clear *what* and *who* it is they're responding to. In threads with 50+ emails and delayed responses, it makes reading much easier.
Thank you,
Delphine
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It is, however, a serious issue for anyone subscribing to the digest, where few (if any) mail clients can correctly distinguish the quoted text; as a result, the digest becomes orders of magnitude longer than it should be. I recently switched from digest to individual delivery, largely for this reason, although given the level of noise this has created in my inbox I doubt if this is sustainable.
I heartily second Delphine's original request. If it does not seem worthwhile to trim the excess lines from the bottom of a post for the sake of one's readers (something which takes at most a few seconds), it might be best to reconsider whether the post is worth sending at all.
Posts to Foundation-L differ from business email, in part, in that this is a public, not a private, conversation, and a threaded archive is available for anyone who loses track of individual emails. There are good reasons for top-posting in business conversations (for example, to maintain a clear record of the conversation leading up to a particular transaction), but these do not apply on this list AFAICT.
Cheers,
Sam
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:59 AM, Dan Rosenthal swatjester@gmail.com wrote:
Especially since nearly all modern email clients have color coding, indenting, and other ways of distinguishing who posted what in what order, makind top posting not much of an issue.
-Dan
2008/4/30 Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com:
From that article: "While top-posting is sometimes recommended against, it is the more common style in business email correspondence."
Why complain about something that is common practice? With most e-mail clients, it will take an extra effort to do what you suggest, and I see no reason to do so.
It's common practice when emailing only one person (or maybe a small handful of people). When emailing a whole mailing list, it's annoying because it becomes confusing as to what you are actually replying to.
2008/4/30 Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com:
Why complain about something that is common practice? With most e-mail clients, it will take an extra effort to do what you suggest, and I see no reason to do so.
Yes, because hitting ctrl-end, or even pressing the down-arrow a few times, is an onerous expectation.
- d.
No, I just think it is unreasonable to expect that the many will do anything to accommodate the requests of the few, especially when people like myself actually prefer top posting for both reading and writing.
Mark
2008/5/1 David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com:
2008/4/30 Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com:
Why complain about something that is common practice? With most e-mail clients, it will take an extra effort to do what you suggest, and I see no reason to do so.
Yes, because hitting ctrl-end, or even pressing the down-arrow a few times, is an onerous expectation.
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"Mark Williamson" node.ue@gmail.com writes:
No, I just think it is unreasonable to expect that the many will do anything to accommodate the requests of the few, especially when people like myself actually prefer top posting for both reading and writing.
So since the majority of this list consider you an egocentric jerk, it's not a problem to say it outright?
Not at all =)
2008/5/1 Anders Wegge Jakobsen wegge@wegge.dk:
"Mark Williamson" node.ue@gmail.com writes:
No, I just think it is unreasonable to expect that the many will do anything to accommodate the requests of the few, especially when people like myself actually prefer top posting for both reading and writing.
So since the majority of this list consider you an egocentric jerk, it's not a problem to say it outright?
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...although I don't see what that has to do with the topic.
2008/5/1 Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com:
Not at all =)
2008/5/1 Anders Wegge Jakobsen wegge@wegge.dk:
"Mark Williamson" node.ue@gmail.com writes:
No, I just think it is unreasonable to expect that the many will do anything to accommodate the requests of the few, especially when people like myself actually prefer top posting for both reading and writing.
So since the majority of this list consider you an egocentric jerk, it's not a problem to say it outright?
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2008/4/30 Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com:
Why complain about something that is common practice? With most e-mail clients, it will take an extra effort to do what you suggest, and I see no reason to do so.
Yes, because hitting ctrl-end, or even pressing the down-arrow a few times, is an onerous expectation.
Mark has a point. Stupidity is a common practice; complaining about it is futile. Attractive as the solution may seem, acting like Daleks would not be a socially acceptable solution for the problem of top posters. :-)
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