Hi Patrick,
'workshop' shouts to me that it is a real life, real time event that people can register for, and attend (in person or remotely). The page seems to suggest however (at a quick glance) that it is rather an online discussion forum. Maybe good to clarify that immediately at the top of the page, given the potentially confusing title that it has.
Another thing I would find helpful (maybe a bit too obvious for you) is clearly stating expectations and goals at the top. What are you trying to accomplish? (options that come to mind is reducing harassment, or helping people to deal with (accept? fight? hide?) harrassment. I expect the first).
Finally, a thing that was also mentioned by Liz at the page (and maybe by others), is that in a multilingual community like ours, it is really tough to discuss sensitive issues like this without a very clear understanding of what we're talking about. People probably have very different expectations of what you mean with 'harrassment'. My first thought with the word was basically sexual or physical harrassment, with real life or near-real life aspects. At Wikimania I got a better understanding that apparently others were using a much wider definition of the word.
Hopefully will clarifications like the above on the page reduce the threshold to participate, especially for those that are not native speakers (and who have more trouble to read through the whole page to get an understanding).
Best, Lodewijk (also posted this on the talkpage)
On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 3:27 AM, Patrick Earley pearley@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello all,
With a lot of discussion on multiple issues going on, I know it can be hard to find time or "bandwidth" for an problem with no easy solutions. But some of the community has started to work on some approaches to the problem of harassment at the workshop on Meta. [1]
It's an issue that isn't going away on its own, and we've started gathering some possible ways forward. We'd love to see you there.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Harassment_workshop
Best regards,
-- Patrick Earley Senior Community Advocate Wikimedia Foundation pearley@wikimedia.org (1) 415 975 1874
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Lodewijk, thanks for the feedback! I'll reply on Meta ...
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi Patrick,
'workshop' shouts to me that it is a real life, real time event that people can register for, and attend (in person or remotely). The page seems to suggest however (at a quick glance) that it is rather an online discussion forum. Maybe good to clarify that immediately at the top of the page, given the potentially confusing title that it has.
Another thing I would find helpful (maybe a bit too obvious for you) is clearly stating expectations and goals at the top. What are you trying to accomplish? (options that come to mind is reducing harassment, or helping people to deal with (accept? fight? hide?) harrassment. I expect the first).
Finally, a thing that was also mentioned by Liz at the page (and maybe by others), is that in a multilingual community like ours, it is really tough to discuss sensitive issues like this without a very clear understanding of what we're talking about. People probably have very different expectations of what you mean with 'harrassment'. My first thought with the word was basically sexual or physical harrassment, with real life or near-real life aspects. At Wikimania I got a better understanding that apparently others were using a much wider definition of the word.
Hopefully will clarifications like the above on the page reduce the threshold to participate, especially for those that are not native speakers (and who have more trouble to read through the whole page to get an understanding).
Best, Lodewijk (also posted this on the talkpage)
On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 3:27 AM, Patrick Earley pearley@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello all,
With a lot of discussion on multiple issues going on, I know it can be hard to find time or "bandwidth" for an problem with no easy solutions. But some of the community has started to work on some approaches to the problem of harassment at the workshop on Meta. [1]
It's an issue that isn't going away on its own, and we've started gathering some possible ways forward. We'd love to see you there.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Harassment_workshop
Best regards,
-- Patrick Earley Senior Community Advocate Wikimedia Foundation pearley@wikimedia.org (1) 415 975 1874
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