Peter Jaros wrote:
On Apr 29, 2004, at 1:32 AM, Michael Snow wrote:
Pepsi would probably try all kinds of things to make you stop, but I'm much more skeptical about whether they could win a lawsuit. Trademark protection is normally denied for terms that are merely descriptive of the goods or services involved. I'm not a trademark examiner, but my conclusion would be that "light, crisp, and refreshing" are simply descriptive terms, so they can't be a trademark.
Sort of like "fair and balanced?"
Trademark protection is not available for merely descriptive terms, or for deceptively misdescriptive terms. So regardless of whether you actually believe this particular network's slogan, it shouldn't be a trademark, right?
As it turns out, "fair & balanced" is a registered trademark (actually a service mark, since news broadcasts are a service and not a commodity). One thing I neglected to discuss is that descriptive terms can become trademarks if they acquire "secondary meaning". This pretty much means that the term becomes so closely connected with the product or service that the public automatically associates the two. You may note that I have been coy about identifying the owner of this mark, but I expect that most people reading this have already recognized that it belongs to Fox News. I think that illustrates my point about secondary meaning, and gives Fox a decent argument for trademark status.
Anyway, this prompted me to look up whether Pepsi has actually filed "light, crisp, and refreshing". Well, they have, but only as part of the Diet Pepsi logo, and in this filing they disclaimed any exclusive right to use "light", "crisp", or "refreshing" aside from the logo. I don't think Pepsi would have a good argument, because when I read the phrase, I don't immediately think of Diet Pepsi. But Pepsi does have a registered trademark for "SO LIGHT. SO CRISP. SO REFRESHING."
--Michael Snow
Michael Snow wrote in part:
Anyway, this prompted me to look up whether Pepsi has actually filed "light, crisp, and refreshing". Well, they have, but only as part of the Diet Pepsi logo, and in this filing they disclaimed any exclusive right to use "light", "crisp", or "refreshing" aside from the logo. I don't think Pepsi would have a good argument, because when I read the phrase, I don't immediately think of Diet Pepsi. But Pepsi does have a registered trademark for "SO LIGHT. SO CRISP. SO REFRESHING."
Interesting. I just looked at the bottle to get a working example, and I assumed that the "TM" referred to the phrase that it was next to; when in fact it looks like it was intended to refer to the entire logo. I'm not sure what that tells us ... that companies can be misleading about what claims they're making?
-- Toby
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