Yes.  When I can publish I will.

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-------- Original message -------- From: Michel Vuijlsteke wikipedia@zog.org Date: 2016/03/10 10:05 AM (GMT+00:00) To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: A conversation?

...this is about that mail of yours to James that was going to be published, right?

On 10 March 2016 at 11:01, jimmy wales jimmywales@ymail.com wrote:

Indeed George I agree with everything you have said about the internal effects of lack of transparency and openness.  Assuming I and other board members who continue to press for full openness about the James situation   are eventually successful this will all become more clear.

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-------- Original message -------- From: George Herbert george.herbert@gmail.com Date: 2016/03/10  9:49 AM  (GMT+00:00) To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: A conversation?

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On Mar 10, 2016, at 1:25 AM, Jimmy Wales jimmywales@wikia-inc.com

wrote:

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... Those ideas never got traction and never made it to the board level. ...

I don't think you are lying or being deceptive, but it seems apparent in the various half-explanations that it did, to James, who either got mangled explanations and assumed worse or heard worse from someone incorrectly. Thence to mistrust.

Assuming nobody is evil or insane, we have clear evidence and now open admissions of communications breakdowns at several levels and confused, contradictory explanations about who thought what secrecy was required and why.

It seems like those fed upon each other into misunderstandings and mistrust.

Have you not considered that lack of transparency and openness would have the same internal effect as external?

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