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From: J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov alexandrdmitriromanov@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 11:27:03 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] should not web server logs (of requests) be published?

I can guarantee that I myself, one of the three foundation-l list moderators, am not an absent landlord. I read every post with care and attention. Whilst there have been some posts on various threads of late than have been to my mind sub-optimal, there have not, in my opinion, been any egrarious personal attacks or trolling.

Moderation is not something we take lightly. Indeed, when we recently reluctantly took the decision to ban one member, there were cries of censorship.

There were some who cried censorship at the most Peter Damian's moderation, but I for one cried out that there were too few people moderated. I don't why you are equating moderation with banning. Moderation should be taken more lightly than banning at least. You seem to be using them interchangeably above. There are people on my ignore list who consistently and over a period of many years send egrarious personal attacks to the list and troll the naive and the flustered. And like everyone who contributes to this list, they also send other messages to the list that are useful or contribute a perspective that would otherwise be absent from the list. They should definitely not be banned, but it is clear that trolling and personal attacks do not bring about moderation.

Birgitte SB