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Andy Mabbett

6 May 2014 6 May '14

5:55 a.m.

Jimmy Wales was recently asked, on Twitter: How do you collaborate with Universities? <https://mobile.twitter.com/AarhusUni/status/460706953795502080> to which he replied: Right now mostly through our GLAM programs (galleries, libraries, museums). <https://mobile.twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/460711968698281984> While it's nice go see GLAM recognised (the "A" stands for "Archives", BTW), that's a bit of a slap to our colleagues who work on education projects. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Fæ

6 May 6 May

6:23 a.m.

If Universities or GLAMs want to talk about our best practices for running open knowledge projects that include Wikimedia projects, they ought to be asking some of the many people who have successfully delivered these projects. Tip: ** Always recommend they visit https://outreach.wikimedia.org ** plenty of contacts and useful case studies are maintained there, both for GLAMs and education. Fae -- faewik(a)gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae

Leigh Thelmadatter

10:24 a.m.

I think this speaks to how little is known and how poorly education projects have been promoted, especially outside the US and Canada. There is even the assumption on the part of many that this is the purview of chapters. The Education Program has just convened an Education Cooperative with representatives from education projects in various parts of the world. Article in the Education newsletter (yes there is one) is here http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/Newsletter/March_2014/Educatio…

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Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 11:23:10 +0100 From: faewik(a)gmail.com To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia and Universities If Universities or GLAMs want to talk about our best practices for running open knowledge projects that include Wikimedia projects, they ought to be asking some of the many people who have successfully delivered these projects. Tip: ** Always recommend they visit https://outreach.wikimedia.org ** plenty of contacts and useful case studies are maintained there, both for GLAMs and education. Fae -- faewik(a)gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

Newyorkbrad

10:28 a.m.

Is there one place, perhaps on Meta, where a Wikipedian/Wikimedian could find a summary/briefing on the various different programs that exist? Newyorkbrad On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Leigh Thelmadatter <osamadre(a)hotmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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Fæ

11:45 a.m.

On 6 May 2014 15:28, Newyorkbrad <newyorkbrad(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Is there one place, perhaps on Meta, where a Wikipedian/Wikimedian could find a summary/briefing on the various different programs that exist? Newyorkbrad

Hi Brad, Yes, this is the purpose of https://outreach.wikimedia.org. Admittedly it always needs updating, however Romaine's excellent work keeping the GLAM newsletter going should provide everything you would like to know about what is happening - https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter. Anyone can edit the outreach wiki, and people running education or GLAM projects should make a point of adding their projects to the site, it is our long term central repository of knowledge and should be the reference point for communications about our projects. Fae -- faewik(a)gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae

Risker

11:53 a.m.

On 6 May 2014 11:45, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 6 May 2014 15:28, Newyorkbrad <newyorkbrad(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Is there one place, perhaps on Meta, where a Wikipedian/Wikimedian could find a summary/briefing on the various different programs that exist? Newyorkbrad

I think Newyorbrad's point is that this is sectioned off into a distant project that few people know about - as I recall, it's not even part of the SUL so one has to log in separately there - and it seems not to be mentioned very often anywhere else. Risker/Anne

Fæ

12:02 p.m.

On 6 May 2014 16:53, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 6 May 2014 11:45, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote: > https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter.

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Fortunately https://outreach.wikimedia.org is included in the unified login. On meta, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM directs you to it. On the English Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM directs you to it as well. Fae -- faewik(a)gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae

geni

12:51 p.m.

On 6 May 2014 15:28, Newyorkbrad <newyorkbrad(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Is there one place, perhaps on Meta, where a Wikipedian/Wikimedian could find a summary/briefing on the various different programs that exist? Newyorkbrad

The ones that are relevant to the english wikipedia can be found ad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Student_assignment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Education_noticeboard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Historical_page_for_school_and_univ… -- geni

LiAnna Davis

1:08 p.m.

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Newyorkbrad <newyorkbrad(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Is there one place, perhaps on Meta, where a Wikipedian/Wikimedian could find a summary/briefing on the various different programs that exist?

For education specifically: You can also go to http://education.wikimedia.org, which takes you to the education portal on Outreach wiki, and then click on "Programs" to see all the education efforts around the world: https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/Programs I had the privilege of working with the program leaders from the education program over the last few years, and there's some truly amazing work happening in education around the world. LiAnna

Mathias Damour

2:08 p.m.

Le 06/05/2014 16:24, Leigh Thelmadatter a écrit :

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(...) There is even the assumption on the part of many that this is the purview of chapters.

Why shouldn't it be ? -- Mathias Damour https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays

Leigh Thelmadatter

2:15 p.m.

Where chapter support is wanted and helpful, no problem. What I mean here is that universities should not be "required" to work "under" a chapter just because one exists.

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Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 20:08:58 +0200 From: mathias.damour(a)laposte.net To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia and Universities Le 06/05/2014 16:24, Leigh Thelmadatter a écrit :

(...) There is even the assumption on the part of many that this is the purview of chapters.

Why shouldn't it be ? -- Mathias Damour https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

Mathias Damour

2:46 p.m.

Le 06/05/2014 20:15, Leigh Thelmadatter a écrit :

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Where chapter support is wanted and helpful, no problem. What I mean here is that universities should not be "required" to work "under" a chapter just because one exists.

I mean that universities should be "able" to work "with" a chapter when it exists, because it's the most convenient way. :-)

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> Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 20:08:58 +0200 > From: mathias.damour(a)laposte.net > To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia and Universities > > Le 06/05/2014 16:24, Leigh Thelmadatter a écrit : >> (...) There is even the assumption on the part of many that this is the purview of chapters. > Why shouldn't it be ? > > -- > Mathias Damour > https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays

-- Mathias Damour https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays

Leigh Thelmadatter

3:30 p.m.

Unfortunately, this is not always the case.

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Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 20:46:23 +0200 From: mathias.damour(a)laposte.net To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia and Universities Le 06/05/2014 20:15, Leigh Thelmadatter a écrit :

Where chapter support is wanted and helpful, no problem. What I mean here is that universities should not be "required" to work "under" a chapter just because one exists.

I mean that universities should be "able" to work "with" a chapter when it exists, because it's the most convenient way. :-)

-- Mathias Damour https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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