Hello folks,
this is a suggestion to encourage more edits. It is both a topic for every of our projects but also of most of the foundation projects. So I post it here at first and will welcome everyone to carry it to the single projects.
On the home page of our projects for example en-wp we have the column "Did you know..." where we feature the new created articles. The idea is to create a column where we put in articles that does not exist or that are stubs and should be improved.
The column look like:
Can you tell us about ... * the pianist [[Veryan Weston]] * the [[Kansas City Philamonics]] * the bird [[Black-eared Seedeater]]
etc.
The column should be at a prominant place so that every visitor can see it. The requested articles can be selected by multiple ways, the community can discuss the way and establish a procedure. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Veryan_Weston&action=edit&redlink=1
I actually like this idea, a LOT. The main page basically poses Wikipedia as a warehouse of content, which is fine, it is that, but also does little to pose Wikipedia as a collaborative project. Yeah, new visitors can technically TRY to edit our main page articles now, but generally the stuff that makes it there is already so polished, or so intensely guarded, that neophyte editors have little to no chance of making meaningful edits on them. I've had a couple articles I created in the Did You Know space, so I can definitely say that they aren't the editor-magnets that Featured Articles or In the News are, but I think putting out there on our front page articles that need CONTRIBUTORS rather than just READERS (in an obvious way, I mean--of course all our articles need contributors) would be a very helpful, and very easy thing for us to do.
FMF
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Ting Chen wing.philopp@gmx.de wrote:
Hello folks,
this is a suggestion to encourage more edits. It is both a topic for every of our projects but also of most of the foundation projects. So I post it here at first and will welcome everyone to carry it to the single projects.
On the home page of our projects for example en-wp we have the column "Did you know..." where we feature the new created articles. The idea is to create a column where we put in articles that does not exist or that are stubs and should be improved.
The column look like:
Can you tell us about ...
- the pianist [[Veryan Weston]]
- the [[Kansas City Philamonics]]
- the bird [[Black-eared Seedeater]]
etc.
The column should be at a prominant place so that every visitor can see it. The requested articles can be selected by multiple ways, the community can discuss the way and establish a procedure. < http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Veryan_Weston&action=edit&...
-- Ting
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We also might want to look into policy overhauls to reduce barriers to contribution.
________________________________ From: David Moran fordmadoxfraud@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 5:53:35 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Can you tell us about ... - An Idea to encourage more edits
I actually like this idea, a LOT. The main page basically poses Wikipedia as a warehouse of content, which is fine, it is that, but also does little to pose Wikipedia as a collaborative project. Yeah, new visitors can technically TRY to edit our main page articles now, but generally the stuff that makes it there is already so polished, or so intensely guarded, that neophyte editors have little to no chance of making meaningful edits on them. I've had a couple articles I created in the Did You Know space, so I can definitely say that they aren't the editor-magnets that Featured Articles or In the News are, but I think putting out there on our front page articles that need CONTRIBUTORS rather than just READERS (in an obvious way, I mean--of course all our articles need contributors) would be a very helpful, and very easy thing for us to do.
FMF
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Ting Chen wing.philopp@gmx.de wrote:
Hello folks,
this is a suggestion to encourage more edits. It is both a topic for every of our projects but also of most of the foundation projects. So I post it here at first and will welcome everyone to carry it to the single projects.
On the home page of our projects for example en-wp we have the column "Did you know..." where we feature the new created articles. The idea is to create a column where we put in articles that does not exist or that are stubs and should be improved.
The column look like:
Can you tell us about ...
- the pianist [[Veryan Weston]]
- the [[Kansas City Philamonics]]
- the bird [[Black-eared Seedeater]]
etc.
The column should be at a prominant place so that every visitor can see it. The requested articles can be selected by multiple ways, the community can discuss the way and establish a procedure. < http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Veryan_Weston&action=edit&...
-- Ting
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On 25/11/2009, at 12:00 AM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
We also might want to look into policy overhauls to reduce barriers to contribution. ________________________________ From: David Moran fordmadoxfraud@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 5:53:35 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Can you tell us about ... - An Idea to encourage more edits
I actually like this idea, a LOT. The main page basically poses Wikipedia as a warehouse of content, which is fine, it is that, but also does little to pose Wikipedia as a collaborative project. Yeah, new visitors can technically TRY to edit our main page articles now, but generally the stuff that makes it there is already so polished, or so intensely guarded, that neophyte editors have little to no chance of making meaningful edits on them. I've had a couple articles I created in the Did You Know space, so I can definitely say that they aren't the editor-magnets that Featured Articles or In the News are, but I think putting out there on our front page articles that need CONTRIBUTORS rather than just READERS (in an obvious way, I mean--of course all our articles need contributors) would be a very helpful, and very easy thing for us to do.
In general, redesigning the reader-facing parts of the site to encourage contribution is something I strongly support. It will benefit us in the long run.
The emphasis at present appears to be on presenting us as a place to go to learn and discover things. This is great, but it does not necessarily encourage contribution.
-- Andrew Garrett agarrett@wikimedia.org http://werdn.us/
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Andrew Garrett agarrett@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On 25/11/2009, at 12:00 AM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
We also might want to look into policy overhauls to reduce barriers to contribution. ________________________________ From: David Moran fordmadoxfraud@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 5:53:35 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Can you tell us about ... - An Idea to encourage more edits
I actually like this idea, a LOT. The main page basically poses Wikipedia as a warehouse of content, which is fine, it is that, but also does little to pose Wikipedia as a collaborative project. Yeah, new visitors can technically TRY to edit our main page articles now, but generally the stuff that makes it there is already so polished, or so intensely guarded, that neophyte editors have little to no chance of making meaningful edits on them. I've had a couple articles I created in the Did You Know space, so I can definitely say that they aren't the editor-magnets that Featured Articles or In the News are, but I think putting out there on our front page articles that need CONTRIBUTORS rather than just READERS (in an obvious way, I mean--of course all our articles need contributors) would be a very helpful, and very easy thing for us to do.
In general, redesigning the reader-facing parts of the site to encourage contribution is something I strongly support. It will benefit us in the long run.
The emphasis at present appears to be on presenting us as a place to go to learn and discover things. This is great, but it does not necessarily encourage contribution.
People interested in things that can be done to encourage a greater conversion of people to move from "reader" to "editor" might be interested in watching/reading Erik Moeller's presentation from Wikimania this year. It was about how to scale up the community to a higher level of magnitude. But what I really took away from the presentation was the idea of "micro-transactions" - that is, small easy edits that can be achieved with a relatively low level of prior knowledge of policies etc. Diversifying and promoting these micro-transactions are a way to encourage more of our readers to become involved in more ways than just via the scary "edit" tab.
I'd recommend looking at the slides from this presentation (and watching the video) from section about "scaling up in 5 steps: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:WMF-Scaling_Up-Wikimania...
-Liam Wyatt [[witty lama]]
-- Andrew Garrett agarrett@wikimedia.org http://werdn.us/
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Good idea! It is important to find the edtor (wikipedian) now!
2009/11/25 Liam Wyatt liamwyatt@gmail.com
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Andrew Garrett <agarrett@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On 25/11/2009, at 12:00 AM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
We also might want to look into policy overhauls to reduce barriers to contribution. ________________________________ From: David Moran fordmadoxfraud@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <
foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 5:53:35 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Can you tell us about ... - An Idea to encourage more edits
I actually like this idea, a LOT. The main page basically poses Wikipedia as a warehouse of content, which is fine, it is that, but also does little to pose Wikipedia as a collaborative project. Yeah, new visitors can technically TRY to edit our main page articles now, but generally the stuff that makes it there is already so polished, or so intensely guarded, that neophyte editors have little to no chance of making meaningful edits on them. I've had a couple articles I created in the Did You Know space, so I can definitely say that they aren't the editor-magnets that Featured Articles or In the News are, but I think putting out there on our front page articles that need CONTRIBUTORS rather than just READERS (in an obvious way, I mean--of course all our articles need contributors) would be a very helpful, and very easy thing for us to do.
In general, redesigning the reader-facing parts of the site to encourage contribution is something I strongly support. It will benefit us in the long run.
The emphasis at present appears to be on presenting us as a place to go to learn and discover things. This is great, but it does not necessarily encourage contribution.
People interested in things that can be done to encourage a greater conversion of people to move from "reader" to "editor" might be interested in watching/reading Erik Moeller's presentation from Wikimania this year. It was about how to scale up the community to a higher level of magnitude. But what I really took away from the presentation was the idea of "micro-transactions" - that is, small easy edits that can be achieved with a relatively low level of prior knowledge of policies etc. Diversifying and promoting these micro-transactions are a way to encourage more of our readers to become involved in more ways than just via the scary "edit" tab.
I'd recommend looking at the slides from this presentation (and watching the video) from section about "scaling up in 5 steps:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:WMF-Scaling_Up-Wikimania...
-Liam Wyatt [[witty lama]]
-- Andrew Garrett agarrett@wikimedia.org http://werdn.us/
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The idea is not bad (especially on wikis that might have more low-hanging fruits), but it might need some work to make it work (e.g. anons cannot create a new article on enwiki, and seeing these red links without the ability to write the articles might be annoying to them).
There is something similar on the Recent Changes page of the English Wikipedia, although I'm not sure, that the listed articles (e.g. schlepp effecthttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Schlepp_effect&action=edit&redlink=1- Yiftach-Elhttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yiftach-El&action=edit&redlink=1- Shenandoah Conservatoryhttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shenandoah_Conservatory&action=edit&redlink=1- Moldova-SuliĊ£a, Suceavahttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moldova-Suli%C5%A3a,_Suceava&action=edit&redlink=1- Zanzehttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zanze&action=edit&redlink=1- Gordon-Haus effecthttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gordon-Haus_effect&action=edit&redlink=1- Yong-Sik Jinhttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yong-Sik_Jin&action=edit&redlink=1) would bring in a very wide audience with diverse expertise.
-- Bence Damokos
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