Greetings to all,
Arabic Wikipedia editors have agreed to hold a day of action to highlight the plight of the Palestinian people and to call for peace. At 00:00 UTC on the 23rd of December, the Arabic Wikipedia "went dark", meaning that Wikipedia will not be editable for 24 hours. Wikipedia remains accessible for reading, though.
This action stems from the community's sense of moral duty to combat injustice. Wikipedia communities have previously stood up for human rights such as by protesting legal travesties like SOPA and PIPA or by showing solidarity with Ukrainians following Russia's invasion of their country.
May everyone celebrating the holidays - and those who aren't - stay safe, and may peace and justice prevail throughout the World.
All the best
Farah
Farah Jack Mustaklem,
Thank you for sharing this information. I appreciate the effort that the Arabic Wikipedia editors are taking to highlight the plight of the Palestinian people and to call for peace. I hope that this action will help to raise awareness of the situation and to bring about a peaceful resolution to the conflict.
I also appreciate the fact that Wikipedia remains accessible for reading, even though it is not editable for 24 hours. This is a good way to ensure that people can still access information about the Palestinian people and the conflict, even though they cannot edit the site.
I hope that this action will be successful in achieving its goals. I wish you and the Arabic Wikipedia editors all the best in your efforts.
Best wishes, Aliyu Shaba.
On Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 2:18 AM Farah Jack Mustaklem fjmustak@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings to all,
Arabic Wikipedia editors have agreed to hold a day of action to highlight the plight of the Palestinian people and to call for peace. At 00:00 UTC on the 23rd of December, the Arabic Wikipedia "went dark", meaning that Wikipedia will not be editable for 24 hours. Wikipedia remains accessible for reading, though.
This action stems from the community's sense of moral duty to combat injustice. Wikipedia communities have previously stood up for human rights such as by protesting legal travesties like SOPA and PIPA or by showing solidarity with Ukrainians following Russia's invasion of their country.
May everyone celebrating the holidays - and those who aren't - stay safe, and may peace and justice prevail throughout the World.
All the best
Farah
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 at 01:18, Farah Jack Mustaklem fjmustak@gmail.com wrote:
Arabic Wikipedia editors have agreed to hold a day of action to highlight the plight of the Palestinian people and to call for peace. At 00:00 UTC on the 23rd of December, the Arabic Wikipedia "went dark", meaning that Wikipedia will not be editable for 24 hours. Wikipedia remains accessible for reading, though.
Except it also forcibly logs out anyone visiting the site which since we have SUL is not acceptable behavoir
This action stems from the community's sense of moral duty to combat injustice. Wikipedia communities have previously stood up for human rights such as by protesting legal travesties like SOPA and PIPA or by showing solidarity with Ukrainians following Russia's invasion of their country.
And did Ar.wikipedia do the same for ukraine?
Hello,
I think there are alternative methods of preventing others from editing, such as using title blacklist. However, automatically logging everyone off without any notification is annoying and can cause privacy issues as users may leak their IP address when they are logging out.
Thank you.
Regards, SCP-2000 https://w.wiki/_zgcU ________________________________ From: geni geniice@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:46:24 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Arabic Wikipedia day of action
On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 at 01:18, Farah Jack Mustaklem fjmustak@gmail.com wrote:
Arabic Wikipedia editors have agreed to hold a day of action to highlight the plight of the Palestinian people and to call for peace. At 00:00 UTC on the 23rd of December, the Arabic Wikipedia "went dark", meaning that Wikipedia will not be editable for 24 hours. Wikipedia remains accessible for reading, though.
Except it also forcibly logs out anyone visiting the site which since we have SUL is not acceptable behavoir
This action stems from the community's sense of moral duty to combat injustice. Wikipedia communities have previously stood up for human rights such as by protesting legal travesties like SOPA and PIPA or by showing solidarity with Ukrainians following Russia's invasion of their country.
And did Ar.wikipedia do the same for ukraine?
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Unfortunately, not only did Arabic Wikipedia go dark, but also the entire movement. The day marks a sad day in the history of a movement that should be neutral and respect the movement's readers, volunteers and donors around the world. This was the day when one of our most important projects was taken hostage by politics. This is not the vision of our movement. It is not what hundreds of thousands of volunteers have worked so hard to build.
For more than 19 years, I have volunteered for this movement, and I have never felt so ashamed.
What's next?
Let's take dark Hebrew Wikipedia and call for the release of 130 babies, elders, and civilians who were taken from their beds and are being held captive for more than two months without access to the red cross, whose medical condition is unknown.
In addition, I hope that European Wikipedias will go dark to raise awareness about the rising antisemitism and violence towards Jews.
I believe that this is our commitment as a movement according to the updated movement mission, as it seems from Arabic Wikipedia last action.
Itzik A proud Israeli and a proud chairperson of Wikimedia Israel.
On Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 03:19 Farah Jack Mustaklem fjmustak@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings to all,
Arabic Wikipedia editors have agreed to hold a day of action to highlight the plight of the Palestinian people and to call for peace. At 00:00 UTC on the 23rd of December, the Arabic Wikipedia "went dark", meaning that Wikipedia will not be editable for 24 hours. Wikipedia remains accessible for reading, though.
This action stems from the community's sense of moral duty to combat injustice. Wikipedia communities have previously stood up for human rights such as by protesting legal travesties like SOPA and PIPA or by showing solidarity with Ukrainians following Russia's invasion of their country.
May everyone celebrating the holidays - and those who aren't - stay safe, and may peace and justice prevail throughout the World.
All the best
Farah
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Itzik, this applies only to ar WP correct? Hebrew WP can of course take actions as they see fit. Each project is somewhat independent of others.
J
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On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 05:38 itzik Edri itzik@wikimedia.org.il wrote:
Unfortunately, not only did Arabic Wikipedia go dark, but also the entire movement. The day marks a sad day in the history of a movement that should be neutral and respect the movement's readers, volunteers and donors around the world. This was the day when one of our most important projects was taken hostage by politics. This is not the vision of our movement. It is not what hundreds of thousands of volunteers have worked so hard to build.
For more than 19 years, I have volunteered for this movement, and I have never felt so ashamed.
What's next?
Let's take dark Hebrew Wikipedia and call for the release of 130 babies, elders, and civilians who were taken from their beds and are being held captive for more than two months without access to the red cross, whose medical condition is unknown.
In addition, I hope that European Wikipedias will go dark to raise awareness about the rising antisemitism and violence towards Jews.
I believe that this is our commitment as a movement according to the updated movement mission, as it seems from Arabic Wikipedia last action.
Itzik A proud Israeli and a proud chairperson of Wikimedia Israel.
On Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 03:19 Farah Jack Mustaklem fjmustak@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings to all,
Arabic Wikipedia editors have agreed to hold a day of action to highlight the plight of the Palestinian people and to call for peace. At 00:00 UTC on the 23rd of December, the Arabic Wikipedia "went dark", meaning that Wikipedia will not be editable for 24 hours. Wikipedia remains accessible for reading, though.
This action stems from the community's sense of moral duty to combat injustice. Wikipedia communities have previously stood up for human rights such as by protesting legal travesties like SOPA and PIPA or by showing solidarity with Ukrainians following Russia's invasion of their country.
May everyone celebrating the holidays - and those who aren't - stay safe, and may peace and justice prevail throughout the World.
All the best
Farah
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This seems interesting at best when you provide links to articles in the Arabic statement and did not do so at the translated statement in English. The intention seems more interesting when there are no discussions and/or something similar to a media pack/explanation note for an act of this size.
I don't know if the Human Rights and/or the Advocacy Team was notified or involved in this, but the execution needs to be improved.
When you would want carry out advocacy right then there should be a call to action for what readers should do if they support the cause, an article or a letter explaining to the affected why this needs to be done (the "Stop Genocide/War" slogan is not enough), and a page documenting all these documents and/or further readings. Slapping a shutdown notice on the main page + a banner (that is basically the same) does not serve this purpose for rallying support for your cause.
Undeniably, to execute this closure requires a major support from the members of the community, but the current form seems to be executed in a way that will not generate the publicity it deserves (even if you support/oppose the shutdown).
(Note: this War and all the atrocity should and must end as soon as possible (preferably with an executable plan for lasting peace) and the perpetrators should be investigated and prosecuted while the affected should be compensated, and all should mourn the innocent lives lost)
Regards, William
On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 at 00:04, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Itzik, this applies only to ar WP correct? Hebrew WP can of course take actions as they see fit. Each project is somewhat independent of others.
J
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On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 05:38 itzik Edri itzik@wikimedia.org.il wrote:
Unfortunately, not only did Arabic Wikipedia go dark, but also the entire movement. The day marks a sad day in the history of a movement that should be neutral and respect the movement's readers, volunteers and donors around the world. This was the day when one of our most important projects was taken hostage by politics. This is not the vision of our movement. It is not what hundreds of thousands of volunteers have worked so hard to build.
For more than 19 years, I have volunteered for this movement, and I have never felt so ashamed.
What's next?
Let's take dark Hebrew Wikipedia and call for the release of 130 babies, elders, and civilians who were taken from their beds and are being held captive for more than two months without access to the red cross, whose medical condition is unknown.
In addition, I hope that European Wikipedias will go dark to raise awareness about the rising antisemitism and violence towards Jews.
I believe that this is our commitment as a movement according to the updated movement mission, as it seems from Arabic Wikipedia last action.
Itzik A proud Israeli and a proud chairperson of Wikimedia Israel.
On Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 03:19 Farah Jack Mustaklem fjmustak@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings to all,
Arabic Wikipedia editors have agreed to hold a day of action to highlight the plight of the Palestinian people and to call for peace. At 00:00 UTC on the 23rd of December, the Arabic Wikipedia "went dark", meaning that Wikipedia will not be editable for 24 hours. Wikipedia remains accessible for reading, though.
This action stems from the community's sense of moral duty to combat injustice. Wikipedia communities have previously stood up for human rights such as by protesting legal travesties like SOPA and PIPA or by showing solidarity with Ukrainians following Russia's invasion of their country.
May everyone celebrating the holidays - and those who aren't - stay safe, and may peace and justice prevail throughout the World.
All the best
Farah
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Hello,
I am most sure that 99,9% of German Wikipedians are aware what was necessary to end World War II: destroying the National Socialist German Workers' Party. With Hitler or another party member being in rule, peace was impossible. (I say this with my mother''s family having been refugees, and my father's family having suffered from the Allied bombings.) Eventually, the civil society of Germany understood how the war and all its consequences came into existence: "Because we gave in 1933 power to the wrong people." The inofficial state motto became "Never again!", and in this spirit following the horrors of the Holocaust, German Wikipedians edit Wikipedia. Never again! is now.
Kind regards, Ziko
Never again is always. Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Ziko van Dijk [mailto:zvandijk@gmail.com] Sent: 23 December 2023 19:54 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Arabic Wikipedia day of action
Hello,
I am most sure that 99,9% of German Wikipedians are aware what was necessary to end World War II: destroying the National Socialist German Workers' Party. With Hitler or another party member being in rule, peace was impossible. (I say this with my mother''s family having been refugees, and my father's family having suffered from the Allied bombings.) Eventually, the civil society of Germany understood how the war and all its consequences came into existence: "Because we gave in 1933 power to the wrong people." The inofficial state motto became "Never again!", and in this spirit following the horrors of the Holocaust, German Wikipedians edit Wikipedia. Never again! is now.
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I would like to thank Farah, as well as Itzik and others, for their messages and the explanation of their contexts.
I don't think further open-ended discussion on wikimedia-l would be productive for this topic.
Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos)
On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 11:03 AM James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Itzik, this applies only to ar WP correct? Hebrew WP can of course take actions as they see fit. Each project is somewhat independent of others.
J
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On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 05:38 itzik Edri itzik@wikimedia.org.il wrote:
Unfortunately, not only did Arabic Wikipedia go dark, but also the entire movement. The day marks a sad day in the history of a movement that should be neutral and respect the movement's readers, volunteers and donors around the world. This was the day when one of our most important projects was taken hostage by politics. This is not the vision of our movement. It is not what hundreds of thousands of volunteers have worked so hard to build.
For more than 19 years, I have volunteered for this movement, and I have never felt so ashamed.
What's next?
Let's take dark Hebrew Wikipedia and call for the release of 130 babies, elders, and civilians who were taken from their beds and are being held captive for more than two months without access to the red cross, whose medical condition is unknown.
In addition, I hope that European Wikipedias will go dark to raise awareness about the rising antisemitism and violence towards Jews.
I believe that this is our commitment as a movement according to the updated movement mission, as it seems from Arabic Wikipedia last action.
Itzik A proud Israeli and a proud chairperson of Wikimedia Israel.
On Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 03:19 Farah Jack Mustaklem fjmustak@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings to all,
Arabic Wikipedia editors have agreed to hold a day of action to highlight the plight of the Palestinian people and to call for peace. At 00:00 UTC on the 23rd of December, the Arabic Wikipedia "went dark", meaning that Wikipedia will not be editable for 24 hours. Wikipedia remains accessible for reading, though.
This action stems from the community's sense of moral duty to combat injustice. Wikipedia communities have previously stood up for human rights such as by protesting legal travesties like SOPA and PIPA or by showing solidarity with Ukrainians following Russia's invasion of their country.
May everyone celebrating the holidays - and those who aren't - stay safe, and may peace and justice prevail throughout the World.
All the best
Farah
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Richard, Isn't the purpose of this mailing list to discuss topics related to the movement? I believe that when a community's decision to use movement resources affects other communities and affiliates, as well as the movement's vision, the movement and the foundation should speak out. Otherwise, there is no end to the personal interpretation of our movement's vision. Perhaps some editors on English Wikipedia would like to blackout ENWP in protest of Netflix's decision not to continue The Crown for another season. Isn't this an expression of freedom of culture and creativity?
On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 8:58 PM Pharos pharosofalexandria@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to thank Farah, as well as Itzik and others, for their messages and the explanation of their contexts.
I don't think further open-ended discussion on wikimedia-l would be productive for this topic.
Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos)
On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 11:03 AM James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Itzik, this applies only to ar WP correct? Hebrew WP can of course take actions as they see fit. Each project is somewhat independent of others.
J
Sent from Gmail Mobile
On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 05:38 itzik Edri itzik@wikimedia.org.il wrote:
Unfortunately, not only did Arabic Wikipedia go dark, but also the entire movement. The day marks a sad day in the history of a movement that should be neutral and respect the movement's readers, volunteers and donors around the world. This was the day when one of our most important projects was taken hostage by politics. This is not the vision of our movement. It is not what hundreds of thousands of volunteers have worked so hard to build.
For more than 19 years, I have volunteered for this movement, and I have never felt so ashamed.
What's next?
Let's take dark Hebrew Wikipedia and call for the release of 130 babies, elders, and civilians who were taken from their beds and are being held captive for more than two months without access to the red cross, whose medical condition is unknown.
In addition, I hope that European Wikipedias will go dark to raise awareness about the rising antisemitism and violence towards Jews.
I believe that this is our commitment as a movement according to the updated movement mission, as it seems from Arabic Wikipedia last action.
Itzik A proud Israeli and a proud chairperson of Wikimedia Israel.
On Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 03:19 Farah Jack Mustaklem fjmustak@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings to all,
Arabic Wikipedia editors have agreed to hold a day of action to highlight the plight of the Palestinian people and to call for peace. At 00:00 UTC on the 23rd of December, the Arabic Wikipedia "went dark", meaning that Wikipedia will not be editable for 24 hours. Wikipedia remains accessible for reading, though.
This action stems from the community's sense of moral duty to combat injustice. Wikipedia communities have previously stood up for human rights such as by protesting legal travesties like SOPA and PIPA or by showing solidarity with Ukrainians following Russia's invasion of their country.
May everyone celebrating the holidays - and those who aren't - stay safe, and may peace and justice prevail throughout the World.
All the best
Farah
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Itzik, I think what Farah published informing the global community is informative and speaks for itself. The action taken by the majority of the Arabic Wikipedia community doesn't disrespect the movement. Actually, It comes as an emphasis to the global worry for the rising humanitarian crisis in Gaza, Palestine.
We grieve for those who lost their lives and we pray to end the suffering soon. As a mother, I hurt for every infant or child that gets hurt in this war.
I agree with you on the rise of anti-Semitism, as an Arab I strongly feel it in its anti-Arabism form. We have a duty to oppose all types of hate, violence, and discrimination whether it's anti-Blackness, Islamophobia, Homophobia or any type of racism.
So in the sum of human knowledge as our mission, in addition to the Israeli knowledge, it includes the Palestinian, Arab, African, and Indigenous knowledge. Hopefully, we keep reminding ourselves of this and work concretely towards it putting our biases on the side.
Emna, A very Proud Human
An utterly shameful decision. I guess Israeli and Jewish lives aren't worth standing up for, according to Arabic Wikipedia.
Dan Rosenthal
On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 8:18 PM Farah Jack Mustaklem fjmustak@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings to all,
Arabic Wikipedia editors have agreed to hold a day of action to highlight the plight of the Palestinian people and to call for peace. At 00:00 UTC on the 23rd of December, the Arabic Wikipedia "went dark", meaning that Wikipedia will not be editable for 24 hours. Wikipedia remains accessible for reading, though.
This action stems from the community's sense of moral duty to combat injustice. Wikipedia communities have previously stood up for human rights such as by protesting legal travesties like SOPA and PIPA or by showing solidarity with Ukrainians following Russia's invasion of their country.
May everyone celebrating the holidays - and those who aren't - stay safe, and may peace and justice prevail throughout the World.
All the best
Farah
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 at 14:02, Dan Rosenthal swatjester@gmail.com wrote:
An utterly shameful decision. I guess Israeli and Jewish lives aren't worth standing up for, according to Arabic Wikipedia.
Dan Rosenthal
On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 8:18 PM Farah Jack Mustaklem fjmustak@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings to all,
Arabic Wikipedia editors have agreed to hold a day of action to highlight the plight of the Palestinian people and to call for peace. At 00:00 UTC on the 23rd of December, the Arabic Wikipedia "went dark", meaning that Wikipedia will not be editable for 24 hours. Wikipedia remains accessible for reading, though.
This action stems from the community's sense of moral duty to combat injustice. Wikipedia communities have previously stood up for human rights such as by protesting legal travesties like SOPA and PIPA or by showing solidarity with Ukrainians following Russia's invasion of their country.
May everyone celebrating the holidays - and those who aren't - stay safe, and may peace and justice prevail throughout the World.
All the best
Farah
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