I can see the merit of having a central repository for interwiki links, currently an article like Barack Obama exists on well over a hundred versions of Wikipedia, so when each of the hundred projects that doesn't currently have such an article creates one there will be over a hundred bot edits to update all the other projects. As the smaller wikis create articles for core subjects articles with >100 interwiki links will become more and more common, having just two edits, one to the repository and one to the new article would be much neater.
Assuming the central repository points both ways, it would also become easier to split apart groups where interwiki links are linking different people. I probably fix one or two of these a month that come up as anomalies via the http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Death_anomalies_table At present if you have two people of the same name with articles on 7 projects you have to edit all 7 projects to split them into two projects with an article on one person and five with an article on the other, whilst with a central repository you would only need three edits, one centrally and two to the articles you were separating out.
But how would this process handle situations such as the EN wiki article [[David Armstrong-Jones, Viscount Linley]] having an interwiki link to the DE article on his late mother? Currently this comes up as a death anomaly because one is living but the other deceased. Would the central repository handle such linking by showing such links as redirected, or would we continue to have such anomalies? Or would DE wiki consider it an error to link these two articles?
WereSpielChequers
On 21/03/11 09:27, Andre Engels wrote:
I guess I'm awfully inadequate at that then... Moving interwikis to a separate site is something that I first proposed back in 2002 (although then saying it was 'something for the (far?) future'), that has many community members and I think also developers behind it, and yet it's 2011 now, and it still seems that it will not be there in the near future.
This idea still have my support Andre!
-- Ashar Voultoiz
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 09:31:15 +0100 From: Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [Announce-l] Wikim?dia France report for July - December 2010 To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Adrienne Alix adrienne.alix@gmail.com Message-ID: AANLkTi=J8eC0=9zx50PWJwOzF73LJSDBybgeE0fTYHE6@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Wow Adrienne,
thanks a lot for the helpful overview. It is very enlighting for understanding what WMFR has been doing!
Best,
Lodewijk
2011/3/23 Adrienne Alix adrienne.alix@gmail.com
Dear Chapters,
Please find below the chapter report of Wikim?dia France for July, August, September, October, November and December 2010.
It is also available on Meta < http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports/Wikimedia_France/2...
== Partnerships ==
=== French National Library ? BnF ===
After several years of talks, a partnership was concluded between Wikim?dia France and the French National Library (Biblioth?que nationale de France). Signed in April 2010, it consisted of two parts. First, an experiment in collaborative proofreading taking place on Wikisource, with the donation of 1400 books in the public domain, including scans and OCR text (automatically generated during the digitization process and prone to many errors, especially with old texts). Second, the exploitation of the authority files of the Library on Wikimedia projects.
A team of three chapter members undertook the technical work. Three board members oversaw their work, acting as a steering committee, and interfaced with the Library staff; one acted as a Library Science and Wikisource advisor. Their work consisted in an extensive study of the formats used by the BnF and on Wikisource, and in the design and creation of a production line for the material. This line had to be able to sustain the sheer load of 1400 books, and handled the analysis and processing of metadata, format conversions, smart trimming and cropping of the scans, and preparation of a deliverable for the final upload to Wikimedia Commons. Because of the number and size of books, the actual upload was requested to WMF system administrator Tim Starling and was done in July.
After that, the team produced various documents, help pages, project reports for the chapter, and a progress report. This last document contains fairly advanced statistical analysis of the characteristics of the proofreaders body, and the work done, making use of mathematical tools to measure the amount of work accomplished during the proofreading process.
See the the hub-page on Meta < http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/BnF_%E2%88%92_Wikim%C3%A9dia_France_cooperati...
=== City of Toulouse ===
As part of the partnership with the City of Toulouse, signed in October 2010, two projects were undertaken with local cultural institutions.
The first one, named Ph?bus project, was with the Mus?um of Toulouse. It involved mobilizing Wikimedians to take high-quality photographs of objects in the non-permanent collections of paleontology and prehistory. The photographs taken in June by volunteers Rama and Ludovic were uploaded in November, and join the ones uploaded by Didier Descouens in April.
More than 450 documents are available on Wikimedia Commons, many of which were assessed Featured Pictures, Quality Images or Valued Images.
See on Wikimedia Commons the project page < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Projet_Phoebus%3E and the images < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Supported_by_Projet_Phoebus%3E
The second project involved the Archives of the City of Toulouse, who contributed digitised photographs by its former curator, French naturalist, mountaineer, geologist and photographer Eug?ne Trutat. A Wikim?dia France volunteer processed the extensive metadata provided by the Archives, in order to fit it into Wikimedia Commons auto-translated templates and provide accurate categorisation.
The 200 resulting files hit Commons in December.
See on Wikimedia Commons the project page < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Archives_municipales_de_Toulouse
the images < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Fonds_Trutat_-_Archives_municipal...
and brief Signpost coverage < http://enwp.org/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-01-10/News_and_notes#In_br...
== Rencontres Wikim?dia 2010 ==
On 3?4 December, Wikim?dia France organised the ? Rencontres Wikim?dia 2010 ? in Paris, in an annex of the Palais Bourbon, the building of the French National Assembly. The event aimed to gather "as many cultural actors as possible to discuss new online collaborative practices and opportunities to take free access to culture a step further". The conference was part of the Glam-Wiki series, and included a series of talks and panels given by wikimedians, professionals from the cultural sector, local representatives, and representatives of government cultural agencies.
See the detailed Signpost coverage < http://enwp.org/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2010-12-13/Rencontres_Wikim?dia
and Wikim?dia France blog posts< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/tag/rencontres-wikimedia-2010%3E
== Activities == === Participation to international Wikimedia events ===
==== GlamWiki UK ==== Five members of the chapter and staff Bastien Guerry attended the GlamWiki conference in London. They gave two talks, about the partnership with the French National Library and about the partnership with the City of Toulouse.
==== Wikimania 2010 ==== Twelve chapter members (including four board members and one staff) attended the conference in Gda?sk in July.
=== Presentations, conferences, workshops ===
==== Novela Festival ====
On October 2nd, the partnership between Wikim?dia France and the City of Toulouse was made public and signed during the inauguration of the ?digital? side of the Novela, the festival of shared knowledge. During the whole afternoon, we showed the public the genesis and the contents of the partnership which ties us to the City of Toulouse, and took that opportunity to raise awareness about free dissemination of knowledge.
The afternoon began with the signature of the partnership, between Pierre Cohen, Mayor of Toulouse, and Wikim?dia France. It continued with joint presentations of institutional actors of this partnership and Wikimedians involved.
Didier Descouens, president of the Institut Picot de Lapeyrouse, paleontology enthusiast, Wikimedian and a driving force behind this partnership since 2009, presented the terms and the value of the partnership. Pierre Gastou and Catherine Bernard, from the Archives of the City of Toulouse, presented their vision of the partnership involving uploading on Wikimedia Commons a collection of photographs from Eug?ne Trutat, taken in the early twentieth century. Pierre Gastou presented Eug?ne Trutat and the collection (ethnography and daily life, collections of the Museum of Toulouse and monuments) and their historical significance. Catherine Bernard explained how this partnership is part of a wider project of digitisation and connection between archives and the Internet.
Wikimedian Rama presented Wikimedia Commons, explaining the organisation of the project, what it contains and how to contribute, and demonstrated the importance of free and open licenses for the dissemination of culture. He relied particularly on the report that Wikim?dia France provided two years ago to the Ministry of Culture on the subject. Ludovic P?ron ended the afternoon by showing the work done on the Wikimedia projects about the historical monuments, and the rise of this project bringing together more and more Wikimedians. It aims to identify, photograph, geotag and describe as many historical monuments as possible, in France and abroad, to provide a coherent and reusable body of knowledge.
==== Other events ====
RMLL ? July 2010, Bordeaux As every year since 2005, Wikimedia France was at the ''Rencontres mondiales du logiciel libre'' in Bordeaux, from July 6 to 10. Nojhan gave a 20 minute talk titled "What's really in Wikipedia?" (''? Qu?y a-t-il vraiment dans Wikip?dia ? ?''), and several members held the booth during five days.
JMLL ? September 2010, Rouen During the ''Journ?e Mondiales du Logiciel Libre'', David gave a talk about the MediaWiki software and how it can be used, with the example of the Wikimedia projects.
Grande Braderie ? September 2010, Lille several members held a display and answered queries at the world's biggest open air market
9e forum E-culture ? September 2010, Lausanne Florence Devouard presented Wikipedia at the ''9e forum E-culture'' in Lausanne, on September 8, 2010. The meeting was about "''Netizenship - citoyennet? num?rique et cyberintimidation''"
Biblioth?que du Chesnay ? September 2010, Chesnay Thierry gave a conference on Wikipedia on September 21, 2010 followed on Saturday and Wednesdsay by two workshops by Benjamin et Thierry.
Open-air conference On September 29 2010, asked by local association "Carrefour culturel Arnaud Bernard" (by the name of a city district), Adrienne Alix gave an open-air talk, right in the district square; many passers-by stopped to listen to the conference.
Festival des sciences ? October 2010, Acign? Nicolas gave a talk in October at the multimedia library of Acign? (Ille-et-Vilaine), as part of ''Festival des sciences'' ("Science festival"). The conference was followed by a workshop, with four other chapter members helping the attendees.
Ubuntu Party ? November 2010 In Paris, several members held a booth and answered queries during the Ubuntu Party. Thierry gave a presentation about Wikipedia, and Aude held a workshop for middle-school students as part of a project to help young people understand the Internet. In Toulouse, four members held a booth on Saturday 20, and Adrienne gave a talk titled 'Beyond software: free licenses as a mean to disseminate culture"
Talk at the CEMAF ? November 2010, Paris As part of an ongoing project with the ''Centre d'?tudes des mondes africains'', a CNRS laboratory, Kropotkine_113 gave a talk to researchers and PhD students. The CEMAF members are looking into contributing to Wikipedia, and the chapter will help by holding workshops in 2011.
Contact with the IT department of the multimedia libraries of Paris ? November 2010, Paris Following several contacts with the multimedia libraries of Paris, Julien presented the Wikimedia projects and the chapter works to the IT department.
Congr?s RESTART ? November 2010, Lisboa (Portugal) Florence gave a keynote during the APDChttp://congresso10.apdc.pt/, as part of the session "Digital Natives & Crowd Sourcing".
== Media interventions == *October 23 : Thierry was invited on national radio network RTL for a radio debate. It was moderated by journalist and author Patrick Poivre d'Arvor, and the other invitee was the director of Who's Who. The talk lasted for about ten minutes, and was focused on the issues with Biographies of living persons on Wikipedia *December 5 : Florence Devouard was invited on TV show ''Vivement dimanche'' on France 2 http://youtu.be/-66RWWVGfqI, presented by Michel Drucker and with politician Fran?ois Bayrou. *December 20 : Adrienne Alix talked about the fundraiser on national radio network Europe 1
== Workgroups ==
=== Strengthening of communication with members === At the end of the year, a taskforce was set up to focus on writing the monthly newsletter to the chapter members. It also contributes to the chapter annual report, due to be published early 2011.
=== Promotional documents === A complete revamp of the promotional documents was undertaken this year. It gained great momentum when Beno?t Evellin worked for the chapter as part of an internship during the month of August. Most of the work was wrapped-up for the Rencontres Wikim?dia.
The documents created include: *leaflets for Wikim?dia France and for each Wikimedia project ; *a booklet aiming to introduce the chapter, the Wikimedia projects and previous partnerships to institutions ; *a small reference guide summing up in 10 key-points how to edit Wikipedia ; *chapter business cards.
=== Photographs & accreditations ===
==== Photo workshop in Paris ====
On September 4 and 5, 2010, a photo workshop organised by Rama, and financially supported by the chapter, was held in the Cit? des Sciences et de l'Industrie in Paris. The workshop was primarily intended for Wikipedia and Commons contributors to share their experiences, but was also open to the general public. The event gathered around thirty people, mainly Wikimedians, and was livetweeted with the hashtag #wikiphoto.
On the first afternoon, several Commons contributors gave presentations on specific aspects of photography. Inisheer taught the basics of photographic composition; Ceridwen talked about licenses and personality rights; esby explained the techniques used to create panoramas. As part of a "Museum" track, Jastrow made a general presentation about museum photography, and Zil focused on techniques used to take pictures of paintings. The last track was about photojournalism, with Rama and Ceridwen talking about concert photography and Ludo29 and Inisheer about sport events.
On the second day, after Ludo29 explained how to begin with a digital reflex camera, several workshops were held, about various subjects such as image editing, panoramas or macrophotography. In the afternoon, the contributors strode the streets of Paris, trying out their new-found knowledge, particularly on listed historical monuments. Some of the pictures taken can be found on Wikimedia Commons. As many more contributors were interested and as early feedback is very positive, a new edition is already being planned.
See Wikim?dia France blog post < http://blog.wikimedia.fr/4-septembre-un-atelier-photographie-pour-commons-18...
and Signpost coverage < http://enwp.org/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2010-10-04/News_and_notes#In_br...
==== North Cape raid ====
In July, members Ludovic and Fanny took part in the "Raid Paris ? Cap Nord", a photographic challenge where competitors are ranked by a jury on the basis of the pictures they take during the trip. The journey starts in Paris, goes through Finland, Sweden and Norway, up to North Cape in Norway, the northernmost point of Europe, and ends back in Paris. Over the four weeks, the raiders drove 12,000 km in a car branded with the logos of Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons and Wikim?dia France. The French chapter provided financial support.
See Signpost coverage < http://enwp.org/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2010-09-20/News_and_notes#Paris...
and Wikim?dia France blog post < http://blog.wikimedia.fr/la-wikimobile-vers-le-cap-nord-1822%3E
==== Other events ==== The chapter helped with getting accreditations for members for many events.
*Festival de Cornouaille ? July 2010, Quimper http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Festival_de_Cornouaille_2010 *Biblioth?que Sainte-Barbe ? June, Paris < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_made_by_courtesy_of_the_Bi...
*O Tour de la Bulle ? September 2010, Montpellier < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Festival_BD_O_Tour_de_la_Bulle_-_...
*Mondial de l'automobile ? October 2010, Paris < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Mondial_de_l%E2%80%99Automobile_d...
- Masquer le texte des messages pr?c?dents -
*Toulouse Game Show ? November 2010, Toulouse http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Toulouse_Game_Show_2010
=== Fundraising ===
Wikimedia France participated in the annual fundraiser of the Wikimedia movement.
All revenue data mentionned below are (good) approximations.
November 2010 *Total amount fundraised : 241 171 euros *Total number of donations : 6196 (including 254 in checks) December 2010 *Total amount fundraised : 227 422 euros *Total number of donations : 5382 (including 418 in checks) January 2011 *Total amount fundraised : 22 775 euros *Total number of donations : 619 (including 116 in checks)
Fundraising was organised largely with volunteers, with the administrative support of a freelance secretary, Elisabeth (who has been working for Wikim?dia France since the summer of 2009).
Wikim?dia France does not use (yet) a CRM such as CiviCRM (data is collected using a spreadsheet).
Link to the donation platform http://dons.wikimedia.fr/dons.php http://dons.wikimedia.fr/dons.php
== Wikim?dia France blog posts summary == === July === The Wikimobile towards North Cape < http://blog.wikimedia.fr/la-wikimobile-vers-le-cap-nord-1822 The Royal Cup bridges Wikipedia and the British Museum< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/wikipedia-rencontre-le-british-museum-autour-de-la-...
Wikisource gains books donated by the BnF< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/wikisource-senrichit-de-livres-donnes-par-la-bnf-18...
=== August === September 4: a photo workshop for Wikimedia Commons< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/4-septembre-un-atelier-photographie-pour-commons-18...
=== September === Google Health Speaks ? Google wants to translate Wikipedia articles about health in Arab, Indian and Swahili< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/google-health-speaks-google-veut-traduire-des-artic...
National monuments have pride of place on the Dutch-language Wikipedia < http://blog.wikimedia.fr/les-monuments-nationaux-a-l%E2%80%99honneur-sur-la-...
Enriching Wikipedia: the European Heritage Days< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/enrichir-wikipedia-les-journees-europeennes-du-patr...
Wikimedia Foundation: various information < http://blog.wikimedia.fr/informations-diverses-1952%3E Wikim?dia France welcomed at the Sainte-Barbe Library< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/wikimedia-france-accueillie-a-la-bibliotheque-unive...
Rencontres Wikim?dia 2010 take place on December 3 and 4 at the 101 rue de l?Universit? (Paris)< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/les-rencontres-wikimedia-2010-cest-le-3-et-4-decemb...
Live-watch the creation of the millionth article of the French speaking Wikipedia!< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/assistez-en-direct-a-la-creation-du-millionieme-art...
Wikipedia reaches one million articles in French!< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/wikipedia-atteint-un-million-darticles-en-francais-...
=== October === Umberto Eco, Wikipedia, and collaborative editing< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/umberto-eco-wikipedia-et-l%e2%80%99edition-collabor...
Wikim?dia France signs an agreement with the City of Toulouse< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/wikimedia-france-signe-un-accord-avec-la-ville-de-t...
The Rencontres Wikim?dia 2010 website is live< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/le-site-des-rencontres-wikimedia-2010-est-en-ligne-...
Wikim?dia France at the Novela: recap of the partnership with the City of Toulouse< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/wikimedia-france-a-la-novela-retour-sur-le-partenar...
Rencontres Wikim?dia 2010: subscriptions opening< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/rencontres-wikimedia-2010-ouverture-des-inscription...
=== November === GLAM-WIKI:UK conference announcement< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/annonce-de-la-conference-glam-wikiuk-2267%3E Open Street Map appears on Wikipedia articles< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/osm-apparait-sur-wikipedia-2256%3E Wikipedia, Michel Houellebecq and the ''droit d?auteur'' (copyright).< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/wikipedia-michel-houellebecq-et-le-droit-dauteur-22...
=== December === Wikim?dia France at GLAM-WIKI:UK< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/wikimedia-france-a-levenement-glam-wikiuk-2281%3E
==== Rencontres Wikimedia 2010 series ==== Event introduction< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/rencontres-wikimedia-2010-introduction-aux-journees...
Wikimedia projects presentation< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/rencontres-wikimedia-2010-presentation-des-projets-...
Presentation of Wikimedia and its objectives for 2015< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/rencontres-wikimedia-2010-presentation-de-wikimedia...
The partnership with the French National Library< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/rencontres-wikimedia-2010-le-partenariat-entre-wiki...
Cultural partnerships with Wikimedia in the world< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/rencontres-wikimedia-2010-partenariats-culturels-av...
The partnership between Wikim?dia France and Toulouse< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/rencontres-wikimedia-2010-le-partenariat-entre-toul...
National monuments on Wikipedia: outcome of Wiki Loves Monuments< http://blog.wikimedia.fr/les-monuments-nationaux-sur-wikipedia-bilan-de-wiki...
== Contributors ==
- Contributors to the monthly newsletter in French (from which this report
is derived) in July-August-September-October-November-December: Bzg, Jean-Fr?d?ric, Ash Crow, Thesupermat, Trizek, VIGNERON, Ludo29, Bapti, Zetud, Serein, (:Julien:), TCY, Crochet.david, David Berardan, Kropotkine 113, Gdgourou, Citron, Pymouss, O2
- Contributors to this chapter report : Jean-Fr?d?ric, Bapti, Ofol,
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2011/3/23 WereSpielChequers werespielchequers@gmail.com:
But how would this process handle situations such as the EN wiki article [[David Armstrong-Jones, Viscount Linley]] having an interwiki link to the DE article on his late mother? Currently this comes up as a death anomaly because one is living but the other deceased. Would the central repository handle such linking by showing such links as redirected, or would we continue to have such anomalies? Or would DE wiki consider it an error to link these two articles?
It should be an error to link those two articles, but in reality links to a section in another language are quite common.
I don't really have a clever solution up my sleeve, but putting the links in one place will likely make these situations easier to handle but allowing the editors to focus on content and ontology, without worrying about updating a long list of links in a lot of projects (and no, bots don't always help).
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com "We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace." - T. Moore
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:02:22 +0200, "Amir E. Aharoni" amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
2011/3/23 WereSpielChequers werespielchequers@gmail.com:
But how would this process handle situations such as the EN wiki article [[David Armstrong-Jones, Viscount Linley]] having an interwiki link to the DE article on his late mother? Currently this comes up as a death anomaly because one is living but the other deceased. Would the central repository handle such linking by showing such links as redirected, or would we continue to have such anomalies? Or would DE wiki consider it an error to link these two articles?
It should be an error to link those two articles, but in reality links to a section in another language are quite common.
I don't really have a clever solution up my sleeve, but putting the links in one place will likely make these situations easier to handle but allowing the editors to focus on content and ontology, without worrying about updating a long list of links in a lot of projects (and no, bots don't always help).
Actually, this is not an answer, more like a question, which may be well related to the issue. May be it has been discussed earlier but I am not aware of such discussions.
We have a number of standard types of renewing information. These are for instance (the list is by far not complete)
* deaths (I guess this is why this Deathnote project started); * elections and government changes at all levels; * changes in administrative divisions (for instance here in NL they split and merge communities several times per year); * sporting and other records changing: for instance A was a record holder but then lost her record to B.
Now obviously not all of these changes get reflected in all language editions immediately. Obviously one can be sure that when a new US president gets elected or a new chess world champion wins the title, this information gets spread over all articles on a scale of hours, sometimes minutes. I am less sure about the elections of the mayor of Recife or splitting a third level administrative unit in Inner Mongolia into three. On the other hand, Portuguese Wikipedia is likely to have an up-to-date info about the mayor of Recife whereas Chinese of Mongolian ones would record the administrative change in Inner Mongolia. Then it can take months or even years to make to other Wikipedias. Is there any way we can automate this? For instance, having a central data bank for this type of changes and sending bot messages into talk pages of relevant articles in all languages?
Cheers Yaroslav
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