Earlier today, I used the Gmane.org gateway to send a message to this mailing list in response to the "Iraqi 2014 elections thread" started by GerardM.
Here is the content of my message (typed from memory):
Have you tried Google yet? It is a search engine that lets you search for information easily and accurately (most of the time).
The Wikidata entry for Google is at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9366.
Hope this helps!
Tomasz
I was surprised to receive a notification saying that my e-mail was rejected by an unnamed moderator (as all e-mails sent to the list through Gmane have to be accepted before being sent on), with the following reason: "Your message was deemed inappropriate by the moderator."
I would like the unknown moderator to — please — explain to me what was so inappropriate in my message that they had to reject it.
Thank you!
Hoi, Most of the time.. I cannot find it and I did use Google among other ways. Thanks, GerardM
On 21 June 2014 17:48, Tomasz W. Kozłowski twkozlowski@gmail.com wrote:
Earlier today, I used the Gmane.org gateway to send a message to this mailing list in response to the "Iraqi 2014 elections thread" started by GerardM.
Here is the content of my message (typed from memory):
Have you tried Google yet? It is a search engine that lets you search for information easily and accurately (most of the time). The Wikidata entry for Google is at <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9366>. Hope this helps! TomaszI was surprised to receive a notification saying that my e-mail was rejected by an unnamed moderator (as all e-mails sent to the list through Gmane have to be accepted before being sent on), with the following reason: "Your message was deemed inappropriate by the moderator."
I would like the unknown moderator to — please — explain to me what was so inappropriate in my message that they had to reject it.
Thank you!
Tomasz
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At a guess; unpleasant snark.
Tom On 21 Jun 2014 16:49, "Tomasz W. Kozłowski" twkozlowski@gmail.com wrote:
Earlier today, I used the Gmane.org gateway to send a message to this mailing list in response to the "Iraqi 2014 elections thread" started by GerardM.
Here is the content of my message (typed from memory):
Have you tried Google yet? It is a search engine that lets you search for information easily and accurately (most of the time). The Wikidata entry for Google is at <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9366>. Hope this helps! TomaszI was surprised to receive a notification saying that my e-mail was rejected by an unnamed moderator (as all e-mails sent to the list through Gmane have to be accepted before being sent on), with the following reason: "Your message was deemed inappropriate by the moderator."
I would like the unknown moderator to — please — explain to me what was so inappropriate in my message that they had to reject it.
Thank you!
Tomasz
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I might point out that I've perhaps needled GerardM more than most people on this list (and even been moderated for it once years ago), but I find his posts about WikiData interesting and I read them when I can. I think Thomas Morton has a very good point though -- so if I may make a request:
Whether the topic is Wikidata, or Wil, or Wikipediocracy, or pedophilia, or whatever the drama was with Russavia, or Commons admins, or whatever it is that raises hackles; can we all just be real for a second, and stop feigning innocence/ignorance when we're trolling, being snarky, or posting "innocent questions" that just so happen to cover a controversial topic, or using misleading/distorted data to ask a pointed question? Seriously, this list is becoming less like foundation-l and more like foxnews-l.
(To clarify this is not directed at Tomasz -- I'm just taking advantage of his post to GerardM as being tangentially related.)
Dan
Dan Rosenthal
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Thomas Morton < morton.thomas@googlemail.com> wrote:
At a guess; unpleasant snark.
Tom On 21 Jun 2014 16:49, "Tomasz W. Kozłowski" twkozlowski@gmail.com wrote:
Earlier today, I used the Gmane.org gateway to send a message to this mailing list in response to the "Iraqi 2014 elections thread" started by GerardM.
Here is the content of my message (typed from memory):
Have you tried Google yet? It is a search engine that lets you search for information easily and accurately (most of the time). The Wikidata entry for Google is at <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9366>. Hope this helps! TomaszI was surprised to receive a notification saying that my e-mail was rejected by an unnamed moderator (as all e-mails sent to the list through Gmane have to be accepted before being sent on), with the following reason: "Your message was deemed inappropriate by the moderator."
I would like the unknown moderator to — please — explain to me what was so inappropriate in my message that they had to reject it.
Thank you!
Tomasz
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On 22 June 2014 09:53, Dan Rosenthal swatjester@gmail.com wrote:
I might point out that I've perhaps needled GerardM more than most people on this list (and even been moderated for it once years ago), but I find his posts about WikiData interesting and I read them when I can. I think Thomas Morton has a very good point though -- so if I may make a request:
Whether the topic is Wikidata, or Wil, or Wikipediocracy, or pedophilia, or whatever the drama was with Russavia, or Commons admins, or whatever it is that raises hackles; can we all just be real for a second, and stop feigning innocence/ignorance when we're trolling, being snarky, or posting "innocent questions" that just so happen to cover a controversial topic, or using misleading/distorted data to ask a pointed question? Seriously, this list is becoming less like foundation-l and more like foxnews-l.
(To clarify this is not directed at Tomasz -- I'm just taking advantage of his post to GerardM as being tangentially related.)
Dan
Dan Rosenthal
Agreed. The "who, me?" level of passive-aggressive snark on the list is way out of hand. I'm glad the list moderators are taking a hard line against it, and hopefully it will result in some useful communication happening on this list again. If you don't want to be moderated, then cut the sarcasm and the personal attacks, it's not hard.
Regards, Craig
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