Hi everybody,
Half a dozen of french-speaking wikimedians decided to improve the illustration of sports articles and more generally produce free content of sport events.
Wikimedia France and Wikimedia CH lend us the costly photo equipment and help us to obtain accreditations.
Since the beginning of the year, 30 events have been photographed and many different sports. We maintain a list on Wikipedia [1]. Feel free to make suggestions!
Pyb
Hi Pyb,
Thanks for sharing these - it's a great project! Well done :)
Stevie
On 6 June 2014 15:59, Pierre-Yves Beaudouin pierre.beaudouin@wikimedia.fr wrote:
Hi everybody,
Half a dozen of french-speaking wikimedians decided to improve the illustration of sports articles and more generally produce free content of sport events.
Wikimedia France and Wikimedia CH lend us the costly photo equipment and help us to obtain accreditations.
Since the beginning of the year, 30 events have been photographed and many different sports. We maintain a list on Wikipedia [1]. Feel free to make suggestions!
Pyb
[1] https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:Sport/Photo _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Pyb, great stuff. It would be great if we could increase coverage of sports which we don't cover very well, if at all, on Commons.
Can I make some suggestions where video would be great.
1. Dwarf tossing[1] 2. Bog snorkelling[2] 3. Cheese rolling[3]
and one of Australia's favourite backyard sports...
4. Goon of Fortune[4]
Cheers,
Russavia
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_tossing [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_snorkelling and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bog_snorkelling [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_rolling and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Cheeserolling [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goon_of_Fortune ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqFFyW01FXA)
Unfortunately, dwarf tossing is kinda prohibited in good old Europe...
Those other sports might be interesting. If some photographers from the UK are interested, we are willing to share our experience to help them be accredited.
Or you can pay me the trip and I will gladly provide videos and pictures, Russavia.
Pleclown.
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Russavia russavia.wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
Pyb, great stuff. It would be great if we could increase coverage of sports which we don't cover very well, if at all, on Commons.
Can I make some suggestions where video would be great.
- Dwarf tossing[1]
- Bog snorkelling[2]
- Cheese rolling[3]
and one of Australia's favourite backyard sports...
- Goon of Fortune[4]
Cheers,
Russavia
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_tossing [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_snorkelling and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bog_snorkelling [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_rolling and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Cheeserolling [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goon_of_Fortune ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqFFyW01FXA) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Pleclown,
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 12:36 AM, Pipo Le Clown pleclown@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, dwarf tossing is kinda prohibited in good old Europe...
Interesting, I see it has been banned in France. And there's obviously a call for it to be banned elsewhere too.
Say, I see that footy in Europe isn't very well covered on Commons. Or outside of Australia for that matter.[1] Whilst it may not be of the level of sports that you guys are aiming for (i.e. not played outside of Australia on a professional basis), AFL is played in several European countries[2] including a competition in France.[3] Teams in France are:
Bordeaux Bombers Paris Cockerels Aix-Marseille Dockers Cergy-Pontoise Coyotes Montpellier Fire Sharks Toulouse Hawks Strasbourg Kangourous Tigers de Perpignan
Could make for interesting additions for Commons, and might help to encourage development of articles relating to Aussie Rules on numerous projects.
Cheers,
Russavia
P.S. My team has a theme song that you Frenchies should recognise.[4]
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Australian_rules_football_by_cou... [2] http://www.afleurope.org/ [3] http://www.football-australien.fr/ [4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2OnZG6VnJk
Whilst going through some of the thousands of photos I managed to get a CC release for from the Korean Culture and Information Service,[1] I came across 200 photos from the 2013 Special Olympics World Winter Games held in Pyeongchang, South Korea.[2] There is an "article" (for want of a better word) on English Wikipedia[3] and Chinese Wikipedia[4], where the images do not see any usage. The only usage these images see on our projects (related to the actual sporting event) is a single image on Spanish Wikipedia on its article for the Special Olympics.[5] Funnily enough, the en.wp article for the Special Olympics World Games[6] uses an NFCC image which fails the NFCC criteria.[7]
Outside of the 2013 Pyeongchang games, Commons' coverage of Special Olympics is basically non-existent.[8]
The next Summer games are in Los Angeles in 2015, and the next Winter games are in Graz in 2017.
Could be good to increase coverage of this one area which I have noticed seriously does suffer from systematic bias on our projects.
Cheers,
Russavia
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_Korea.net_Flickr_stre... [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:2013_Special_Olympics_World_Wint... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Special_Olympics_World_Winter_Games [4] https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E5%B9%B4%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E5%86%AC%E5%AD... [5] https://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/glamorous.php?doit=1&category=2013+S... [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Olympics_World_Games [7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Special_Olympics_World_Summer_Games_Openi... [8] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Special_Olympics
It's a shame, the National Summer games for Switzerland where last week-end, and I was not aware of it...
I do agree that the para-sport (both disabled and special athletes) needs a better coverage (and the french public agrees [1]). Some of us went to the 2013 IPC Athletics World Championships last year [2], Pyb was at the Meeting d'Athlétisme Paralympique de Paris [3] this week, Ludo and I will go to the french paralympic cycling championship next week-end... Parasport is (IMO) a good way to try sport photography. People are really nice and accessible, and the parasport is in need of more media coverage, so they are less likely to rebuff you.
I really like parasport photography, and I'm willing to provide more photos and vidéos for Commons. But the main problem is the knowledge of such events. They are not advertised in the press, and we must go and seach the information on the websites of the federations, which is very time consuming. I discover sports and events in the press, when the events are over (like the National Summer games...). One of the goals of this thread is to find a way to help us (as a community) to better communicate on those events (para and not para), and try to have a better coverage (and many more photographers all around the world).
Pleclown
[1] http://www.paralympic.org/news/para-sport-needs-more-media-coverage-says-fre... [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:2013_IPC_Athletics_World_Champio... [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Meeting_d%27Athl%C3%A9tisme_Para...
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
Whilst going through some of the thousands of photos I managed to get a CC release for from the Korean Culture and Information Service,[1] I came across 200 photos from the 2013 Special Olympics World Winter Games held in Pyeongchang, South Korea.[2] There is an "article" (for want of a better word) on English Wikipedia[3] and Chinese Wikipedia[4], where the images do not see any usage. The only usage these images see on our projects (related to the actual sporting event) is a single image on Spanish Wikipedia on its article for the Special Olympics.[5] Funnily enough, the en.wp article for the Special Olympics World Games[6] uses an NFCC image which fails the NFCC criteria.[7]
Outside of the 2013 Pyeongchang games, Commons' coverage of Special Olympics is basically non-existent.[8]
The next Summer games are in Los Angeles in 2015, and the next Winter games are in Graz in 2017.
Could be good to increase coverage of this one area which I have noticed seriously does suffer from systematic bias on our projects.
Cheers,
Russavia
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_Korea.net_Flickr_stre... [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:2013_Special_Olympics_World_Wint... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Special_Olympics_World_Winter_Games [4] https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E5%B9%B4%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E5%86%AC%E5%AD... [5] https://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/glamorous.php?doit=1&category=2013+S... [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Olympics_World_Games [7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Special_Olympics_World_Summer_Games_Openi... [8] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Special_Olympics
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The women's FA Cup is a good idea actually. With this, as with any other idea, if there's a UK volunteer keen to take this forward then please do get in touch. You can contact me directly if it helps.
WMUK has had some success in arranging credentials for sporting events actually. Recently a Wikinews reporter was offered funding to cover this year's Youth Olympic Games in China but had trouble getting accreditation but after a phonecall or two to the IOC in Geneva, it's all been sorted. Happy to work on similar things for others.
Stevie
On 7 June 2014 09:49, Pipo Le Clown pleclown@gmail.com wrote:
It's a shame, the National Summer games for Switzerland where last week-end, and I was not aware of it...
I do agree that the para-sport (both disabled and special athletes) needs a better coverage (and the french public agrees [1]). Some of us went to the 2013 IPC Athletics World Championships last year [2], Pyb was at the Meeting d'Athlétisme Paralympique de Paris [3] this week, Ludo and I will go to the french paralympic cycling championship next week-end... Parasport is (IMO) a good way to try sport photography. People are really nice and accessible, and the parasport is in need of more media coverage, so they are less likely to rebuff you.
I really like parasport photography, and I'm willing to provide more photos and vidéos for Commons. But the main problem is the knowledge of such events. They are not advertised in the press, and we must go and seach the information on the websites of the federations, which is very time consuming. I discover sports and events in the press, when the events are over (like the National Summer games...). One of the goals of this thread is to find a way to help us (as a community) to better communicate on those events (para and not para), and try to have a better coverage (and many more photographers all around the world).
Pleclown
[1]
http://www.paralympic.org/news/para-sport-needs-more-media-coverage-says-fre... [2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:2013_IPC_Athletics_World_Champio... [3]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Meeting_d%27Athl%C3%A9tisme_Para...
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
Whilst going through some of the thousands of photos I managed to get a CC release for from the Korean Culture and Information Service,[1] I came across 200 photos from the 2013 Special Olympics World Winter Games held in Pyeongchang, South Korea.[2] There is an "article" (for want of a better word) on English Wikipedia[3] and Chinese Wikipedia[4], where the images do not see any usage. The only usage these images see on our projects (related to the actual sporting event) is a single image on Spanish Wikipedia on its article for the Special Olympics.[5] Funnily enough, the en.wp article for the Special Olympics World Games[6] uses an NFCC image which fails the NFCC criteria.[7]
Outside of the 2013 Pyeongchang games, Commons' coverage of Special Olympics is basically non-existent.[8]
The next Summer games are in Los Angeles in 2015, and the next Winter games are in Graz in 2017.
Could be good to increase coverage of this one area which I have noticed seriously does suffer from systematic bias on our projects.
Cheers,
Russavia
[1]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_Korea.net_Flickr_stre...
[2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:2013_Special_Olympics_World_Wint...
[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Special_Olympics_World_Winter_Games
[4]
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E5%B9%B4%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E5%86%AC%E5%AD...
[5]
https://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/glamorous.php?doit=1&category=2013+S...
[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Olympics_World_Games [7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Special_Olympics_World_Summer_Games_Openi...
[8] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Special_Olympics
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On 6 June 2014 16:20, Russavia russavia.wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
Pyb, great stuff. It would be great if we could increase coverage of sports which we don't cover very well, if at all, on Commons.
Can I make some suggestions where video would be great.
- Dwarf tossing[1]
- Bog snorkelling[2]
- Cheese rolling[3]
Cheese rolling is tricky because it only happens once a year and is legally borderline. What I'd like to see is more woman's sport. I'd put good odds that WMUK could get someone into the woman's FA cup final for example.
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