Thanks, MZMcBride.
This is a really cool feature, which seems helpful for a wide range of different uses.
Kudos to Madman, Krenair and everyone who made this possible!
Fabrice
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- Info action (MZMcBride)
- Re: Info action (Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation)
- Re: Info action (Risker)
- Re: Info action (Richard Symonds)
- Re: Info action (David Gerard)
- Re: Info action (Andy Mabbett)
- Re: Info action (Thomas Morton)
- Re: Info action (Przykuta)
Message: 1 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:41:21 -0400 From: MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Info action Message-ID: CCAB35C1.1DDF4%z@mzmcbride.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi.
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads to a newly reimplemented info action:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info
Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users.
This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this nature.
The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action (it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail this list or file a bug at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/.
MZMcBride
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:59:49 +0000 From: "Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation" pbeaudette@wikimedia.org To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action Message-ID: 17143532-1350943191-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-602246200-@b1.c9.bise6.blackberry
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Now that's just cool...
Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc
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-----Original Message----- From: MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com Sender: wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:41:21 To: Wikimedia Mailing Listwikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
Hi.
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads to a newly reimplemented info action:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info
Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users.
This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this nature.
The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action (it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail this list or file a bug at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/.
MZMcBride
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Message: 3 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:04:21 -0400 From: Risker risker.wp@gmail.com To: pbeaudette@wikimedia.org, Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action Message-ID: CAPXs8yRHEX9Umj6tzTjHATCJDtmLuM55Oi7jojSEGa9p00OL2g@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Concur with Philippe. Thanks for letting us know about this.
Risker
On 22 October 2012 17:59, Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation < pbeaudette@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Now that's just cool...
Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc
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-----Original Message----- From: MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com Sender: wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:41:21 To: Wikimedia Mailing Listwikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
Hi.
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads to a newly reimplemented info action:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info
Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users.
This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this nature.
The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action (it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail this list or file a bug at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/.
MZMcBride
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Message: 4 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:59:50 +0100 From: Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action Message-ID: CACHSVDwCSOc2v-jGHbPmccVKTPnHtbyrp8wzgtrgGfy5UonJFg@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
MZMcBride,
This looks fantastic, and very useful! I'm not sure how related this is, but is there any way the page can also pull up page views? Or would that be a problem? My understanding is that page views puts too much load on the servers, so it may well be unworkable...
It's also be useful to be able to see how many editors, authors etc there were in the past 24 hours - again, I'm not sure if this is doable, but I thought I'd throw it out there!
Richard Symonds/Chase me ladies
On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Hi.
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads to a newly reimplemented info action:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info
Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users.
This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this nature.
The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action (it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail this list or file a bug at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/.
MZMcBride
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Message: 5 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:15:25 +0100 From: David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action Message-ID: CAJ0tu1GMc+-Yd4ow_fjX_kjSNV=0pwjMoGuSOXDjdwbvL+Gxeg@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
On 23 October 2012 10:59, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
This looks fantastic, and very useful! I'm not sure how related this is, but is there any way the page can also pull up page views? Or would that be a problem? My understanding is that page views puts too much load on the servers, so it may well be unworkable...
History pages on en:wp already have a link to stats.grok.se, shouldn't be hard to put such a link here as well.
- d.
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:29:34 +0100 From: Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action Message-ID: CABiXOE=f45wOC2NpmLctk2P8e4iP7PeM+FNZHfvqe2N8Z2P6Hg@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis.
This sounds like a really useful feature.
for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the number of page watchers) will be displayed.
Why is this for admins only?
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:45:49 +0100 From: Thomas Morton morton.thomas@googlemail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action Message-ID: CAKO2H7-bqH1=1F-W-X_UkPqr9PABMdZpTvGb3=zYonDrac=Pug@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On 23 October 2012 11:29, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information"
link
in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis.
This sounds like a really useful feature.
for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the number of page watchers) will be displayed.
Why is this for admins only?
For the same reason Special:UnwatchedPages is Admin-only I presume :) to avoid people using this feature to identify unwatched pages to vandalise.
Tom
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:53:42 +0200 From: Przykuta przykuta@o2.pl To: =?UTF-8?Q?Wikimedia_Mailing_List?=wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action Message-ID: 5f8d6a27.532d54d6.50867736.bc0b8@o2.pl Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the number of page watchers) will be displayed.
Why is this for admins only?
For the same reason Special:UnwatchedPages is Admin-only I presume :) to avoid people using this feature to identify unwatched pages to vandalise.
Tom
This tool is not only for admins:
http://toolserver.org/~mzmcbride/watcher/?db=enwiki_p&titles=Main_Page
;)
But it works, if number of watchers > 30
Przykuta
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