please, see my proposal: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta_talk:Language_proposal_policy (unique and workable criterion) i would be happy to read opinions and suggestions, yours, the Marcus Buck's, and many others Marcos Cramer <marcos.cramer(a)gmx.de> wrote: Marcus Buck wrote: I like your rule requiring 1000 real speakers. You're probably right in arguing that it is better to have one rule without exceptions for special cases. So unless someone else in this discussion prefers my proposal to that of Marcus Buck, I retire my proposal and support Marcus' proposal. For me the most important thing at any rate is to get that silly "native" requirement out of the policy, and on that Marcus and me completely agree. Marcos Cramer -- --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.