Something similar happened at Wikibooks. We want a way to count the number of books we have (as opposed to pages), and to list them. So Ramac and Pietrodn wrote http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AllBooks, which solves that problem quite well. The solution was rejected because it solves the wrong problem.
The real problem is that the software has no way of knowing what a book is - that is, there is no thing in the database identifying books. That is the real problem, and once we solve it, we can implement many other solutions to problems which stem from that (some thoughts at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Mike.lifeguard/Wish_list). As disappointing as that is for the Wikibooks community (and especially the developers), it was the right choice. We should not implement an extension just because it was written - that is what has been proposed.
Rejecting this solution is the correct course in this case because here too the wrong problem is solved.
Mike
Hoi. You are comparing apples with pears. Thanks, GerardM
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:36 PM, mike.lifeguard mike.lifeguard@gmail.com wrote:
Something similar happened at Wikibooks. We want a way to count the number of books we have (as opposed to pages), and to list them. So Ramac and Pietrodn wrote http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AllBooks, which solves that problem quite well. The solution was rejected because it solves the wrong problem.
The real problem is that the software has no way of knowing what a book is
that is, there is no thing in the database identifying books. That is the real problem, and once we solve it, we can implement many other solutions to problems which stem from that (some thoughts at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Mike.lifeguard/Wish_list). As disappointing as that is for the Wikibooks community (and especially the developers), it was the right choice. We should not implement an extension just because it was written - that is what has been proposed.
Rejecting this solution is the correct course in this case because here too the wrong problem is solved.
Mike
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Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
You are comparing apples with pears.
It's a valid comparison when discussing whether we should specifically address the lack of fructose in one's diet by buying more apples, or buying a general basket of fruit.
Jesse Plamondon-Willard wrote:
Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
You are comparing apples with pears.
It's a valid comparison when discussing whether we should specifically address the lack of fructose in one's diet by buying more apples, or buying a general basket of fruit.
He could have used the usual idiom about comparing apples and oranges. IIRC apples and pears can be hybridized. ;-)
Ec
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi. You are comparing apples with pears. Thanks, GerardM
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:36 PM, mike.lifeguard mike.lifeguard@gmail.com wrote:
Something similar happened at Wikibooks. We want a way to count the number of books we have (as opposed to pages), and to list them. So Ramac and Pietrodn wrote http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AllBooks, which solves that problem quite well. The solution was rejected because it solves the wrong problem.
The real problem is that the software has no way of knowing what a book is
that is, there is no thing in the database identifying books. That is the real problem, and once we solve it, we can implement many other solutions to problems which stem from that (some thoughts at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Mike.lifeguard/Wish_list). As disappointing as that is for the Wikibooks community (and especially the developers), it was the right choice. We should not implement an extension just because it was written - that is what has been proposed.
Rejecting this solution is the correct course in this case because here too the wrong problem is solved.
Mike
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Is it so hard to accept that some people _might_ not be as head-over-heels for Babel as you and have concerns? You've done nothing but put down every single concern raised. Why even bother asking for input if your response to criticism must remain so childish?
-Chad
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