[crossposted from a discussion that originated on wikiEN-l]
Delirium wrote:
Anthere wrote:
well, this is very unfortunate for you, because Angela and I will strongly favor use of multilingual meta over mailing lists.
I do think we've had a vote on this on en:, which also contained about five pages of arguments back and forth on both sides, as it came up on the Village Pump about 5 or 6 separate times, but I can't seem to find where it got moved to. Links, anyone?
I found it: several separate discussions are archived on [[en:Wikipedia talk:Mailing lists]].
The votes were mostly inconclusive...
Question: Should we have meta-discussions on: * mailing lists? 9 yes, 12 no, 3 neutral * web forums (boards.wikimedia.org)? 2 yes, 11 no, 5 neutral * the Wikimedia wiki (meta.wikimedia.org)? 12 yes, 9 no, 2 neutral * on Wikipedia itself (en.wikipedia.org for en: discussions)? 4 yes, 6 no, 7 neutral
Of course, these are more like straw polls than a real vote, so can't be said to be conclusive, even if they had shown a strong preference one way or another, which they don't. But clearly people are fairly strongly divided on the issue. Allowing simultaneous wiki and email discussion is probably next to impossible as a compromise, but if the pro-wiki-discussion people would be willing to compromise on some web-based discussion interface other than a wiki, probably a gateway of some sort could be set up to allow posting and reading by either email or web, depending on personal preference. gmane does some of this now, but perhaps some better web-email gateway interface is possible.
-Mark
Delirium wrote:
[crossposted from a discussion that originated on wikiEN-l]
Delirium wrote:
Anthere wrote:
well, this is very unfortunate for you, because Angela and I will strongly favor use of multilingual meta over mailing lists.
I do think we've had a vote on this on en:, which also contained about five pages of arguments back and forth on both sides, as it came up on the Village Pump about 5 or 6 separate times, but I can't seem to find where it got moved to. Links, anyone?
I found it: several separate discussions are archived on [[en:Wikipedia talk:Mailing lists]].
The votes were mostly inconclusive...
Question: Should we have meta-discussions on:
- mailing lists? 9 yes, 12 no, 3 neutral
- web forums (boards.wikimedia.org)? 2 yes, 11 no, 5 neutral
- the Wikimedia wiki (meta.wikimedia.org)? 12 yes, 9 no, 2 neutral
- on Wikipedia itself (en.wikipedia.org for en: discussions)? 4 yes, 6
no, 7 neutral
Of course, these are more like straw polls than a real vote, so can't be said to be conclusive, even if they had shown a strong preference one way or another, which they don't. But clearly people are fairly strongly divided on the issue. Allowing simultaneous wiki and email discussion is probably next to impossible as a compromise, but if the pro-wiki-discussion people would be willing to compromise on some web-based discussion interface other than a wiki, probably a gateway of some sort could be set up to allow posting and reading by either email or web, depending on personal preference. gmane does some of this now, but perhaps some better web-email gateway interface is possible.
-Mark
Yes. Well, then, find us a way to discuss *where the content will be under gfdl, *where refactoring is possible, *where translation to support multilingualism is possible (or at least refactoring to make it more readable to non english speakers) *and where easy linkage to summary can be done and used on all wikis.
When a solution is found, we will consider the option. Meanwhile, it is easiest on meta.
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