Hi Gerhard, Are you addressing me? Your reply is to my email,
Cheers,
Peter
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From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gerard
Meijssen
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 10:09 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today!
#wikimedia2030
Hoi,
You get it backwards; Yaroslav indicates that he EXPECTS not to be heard.
It does not follow that what people say will not be noticed and it does not follow that
they may not be involved in the process of realising the strategy.
The option to be heard has nothing to do with the position on the strategic vision but
everything on the way an opinion is phrased. There is much in the strategic vision that is
not controversial and where we can easily agree on a way forward. Lets be simple about
this and collaborate. The devil is in the detail and obviously the vision is not what will
be realised; it is a map of how we envision the future.
When you want to be heard, what you want to be involved in the process, be part of the
process. Do not say "no: this is wrong and I will do everything in my power to see
this plan dismissed for the crap I think it is". Find it in yourself to remain part
of our community, involve yourself positively in the ongoing processes because it is a
Wikimedia tradition to be bold and go where we have not gone before.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 27 October 2017 at 08:27, Peter Southwood <peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net>
wrote:
It would be interesting to know who made the decision
that persons who
do not endorse phase I will be excluded from further involvement in
the process, and how that decision is justified in the context of
Wikimedia project traditions.
Cheers,
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On
Behalf Of Yaroslav Blanter
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 7:56 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Movement Strategy: Endorse the
strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030
For the record, at the talk page of the endorsement page,
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_
movement/2017/Direction/Endorsement
we have a small number of contributors, including myself, who explain
why they refuse to endorse the document. I do not expect us to be heard though.
Cheers
Yaroslav
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 6:28 PM, Kaarel Vaidla
<kaarelvaidla(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear fellow Wikimedians,
As a volunteer member of some of the support groups for phase 1 of
movement strategy process [1], I am excited about the Endorsement
Day and am one of the people who has *individually endorsed
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_
movement/2017/Direction/Endorsement#Individual_contributors>*
strategic
direction
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_
movement/2017/Direction>
.
With my letter to Wikimedia-l I would like to remind everyone that
there is this possibilty of individual endorsement that may not have
really been highlighted. So, if you personally feel like endorsing
the direction, you are more than welcome to do that!
I am happy to see already quite many endorsements on respective meta
page.
I am also happy that there are people presenting
their discord with
strategic direction in a constructive way on the endorsement
discussion page
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_
movement/2017/Direction/Endorsement>.
I think that it is important not only to endorse or not endorse the
document, but also to give rationale why it is done. I believe that
this will help us in moving forward together with Phase 2 and learn
as
we go.
As a result I have written a small essay in my
user namespace
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Misosoof/
Endorsement_of_Wikimedia2030>
presenting some of the reasons why I am happy with what we have
achieved in phase 1 and with having a strategic direction for our
movement. You may agree or disagree, but I feel it is important to
express
one's opinion.
Also I encourage everyone else to share their
reasons for liking or
disliking the direction with wider Wikimedia public, so we can learn
more and have even more meaningful phase 2.
I thank you for your time and kind attention!
Best regards,
Kaarel Vaidla
[1] Namely, Community Process Steering Committee
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Pr
oc
ess/
Steering_Committee>,
Track A Advisory Group
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Tr
ac
k_A/
Advisory_Group>
and Drafting Group
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_
movement/2017/People/Drafting_Group>
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