On another bent to the topic, could I ask the board to pass a resolution regarding replacement logos saying:
1. At least five of top ten contributing languages must agree the logo should be changed. 2. If this is satisfied, the Board and/or Communications Committee must agree in principal that a logo change would be timely, acceptable and warranted. 3. Logo competitions must be structured from the beginning by independent Wikimedians, as the board elections are.
While I agree that Wiktionary and Wikisource needed to be refreshed, Wikibooks just seems to be riding the trend, and I'm worried that once these competitions are over, there'll only be more. It would be nice to keep the project identities steady.
Nick
I'm not sure I follow your logic here.
I think you are suggesting mixing broad consensus within a language and consensus across languages. But why is that relevant to logos per se?
Why is Com Com suddenly the arbiter of what is acceptable?
Who are you accusing of being a WMF insider running elections? I didn't even know about them until it was posted to Foundation this week.
-Brad
On 9/12/06, Nicholas Moreau nicholasmoreau@gmail.com wrote:
On another bent to the topic, could I ask the board to pass a resolution regarding replacement logos saying:
- At least five of top ten contributing languages must agree the logo
should be changed. 2. If this is satisfied, the Board and/or Communications Committee must agree in principal that a logo change would be timely, acceptable and warranted. 3. Logo competitions must be structured from the beginning by independent Wikimedians, as the board elections are.
While I agree that Wiktionary and Wikisource needed to be refreshed, Wikibooks just seems to be riding the trend, and I'm worried that once these competitions are over, there'll only be more. It would be nice to keep the project identities steady.
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I think ComCom is being named because I believe they had the Wikisource logo changed. The WS logo was not chosen by contest at all. And I am not complaining about this (I do not know why people think the majority of people at WS are upset about it).
I think a much simpler solution would be to adopt a rule that voting may not start on a logo contest until all active languages have been notified in their own language. The work required to get a truly international logo contest would keep people from doing these without good reason. It is also would prevent someone suddenly comimg to the site one to find the logo changed without warning.
http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikisource-l/2006-May/000029.html
Birgitte SB
--- Brad Patrick bradp.wmf@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure I follow your logic here.
I think you are suggesting mixing broad consensus within a language and consensus across languages. But why is that relevant to logos per se?
Why is Com Com suddenly the arbiter of what is acceptable?
Who are you accusing of being a WMF insider running elections? I didn't even know about them until it was posted to Foundation this week.
-Brad
On 9/12/06, Nicholas Moreau nicholasmoreau@gmail.com wrote:
On another bent to the topic, could I ask the
board to pass a resolution
regarding replacement logos saying:
- At least five of top ten contributing
languages must agree the logo
should be changed. 2. If this is satisfied, the Board and/or
Communications Committee
must agree in principal that a logo change
would be timely, acceptable
and warranted. 3. Logo competitions must be structured from
the beginning by
independent Wikimedians, as the board elections
are.
While I agree that Wiktionary and Wikisource
needed to be refreshed,
Wikibooks just seems to be riding the trend, and
I'm worried that once
these competitions are over, there'll only be more. It
would be nice to keep the
project identities steady.
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On 9/13/06, Nicholas Moreau nicholasmoreau@gmail.com wrote:
On another bent to the topic, could I ask the board to pass a resolution regarding replacement logos saying:
- At least five of top ten contributing languages must agree the logo
should be changed. 2. If this is satisfied, the Board and/or Communications Committee must agree in principal that a logo change would be timely, acceptable and warranted. 3. Logo competitions must be structured from the beginning by independent Wikimedians, as the board elections are.
I've put this on the Board wiki, though I think it may be more useful to expand it so the resolution is applicable to new projects (wikiversity, incubator) as well and those won't have 10 languages by the time they want a logo.
Angela.
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