We are in first page of Le Monde, with several pages included inside. Le Monde is the *first* newspaper in France. This is an amazing day.
Anthere
valdelli@bluemail.ch wrote:
Yes, for the French people. :)
Ilario
No. Not really. Not only for french people. Each time we have a major media display in a country, the *whole* project directly or indirectly benefit from it.
I have been on Wikipedia for now 3 years and a half, and for all this time, I have been dreaming on us having an article in Le Monde. We had once a tiny little report in the cultural section. Very little impact. But here, we are featured on first page.
The impact of this is likely to be huge, because it means a sort of recognition. In particular we can expect 1) more fear from all those we are currently in competition with, so possibly more attacks 2) but mostly more interest from potential partners, be it firms, organisations, associations, academics etc...
The implications might be various. Possibly an impact on the publication of a DVD (which might be interesting for more than just french people). Possibly a partnership for publication of wikireaders (and similarly, why would we limit that to french language ?). Possibly a lever to negociate with organisations such as ESA, which would benefit all of us. And quite possibly as well, more donations, since we are currently in the middle of a fund drive (more money will benefit all of us).
We are together in this Ilario. Not just french, or just italian ;-)
ant
We are in first page of Le Monde, with several pages included inside. Le Monde is the *first* newspaper in France. This is an amazing day.
Yes, I know. This is the good moment (also here in Swiss and in Italy), but the newspapers always are finding news... when the news are not new, this the moment to kill the old news :)
Finally, I think that bad moments will follow. This is the moment to contact the journalists who write these articles and to offer the availability for new informations. This is the moment to construct references and links to manage the next steps.
Ilario
-- Messaggio originale -- To: foundation-l@wikimedia.org From: Anthere anthere9@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 21:39:01 +0200 Subject: [Foundation-l] Re: We made it !!!!!! Reply-To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@wikimedia.org
valdelli@bluemail.ch wrote:
Yes, for the French people. :)
Ilario
No. Not really. Not only for french people. Each time we have a major media display in a country, the *whole* project directly or indirectly benefit from it.
I have been on Wikipedia for now 3 years and a half, and for all this time, I have been dreaming on us having an article in Le Monde. We had once a tiny little report in the cultural section. Very little impact. But here, we are featured on first page.
The impact of this is likely to be huge, because it means a sort of recognition. In particular we can expect
- more fear from all those we are currently in competition with, so
possibly more attacks 2) but mostly more interest from potential partners, be it firms, organisations, associations, academics etc...
The implications might be various. Possibly an impact on the publication
of a DVD (which might be interesting for more than just french people).
Possibly a partnership for publication of wikireaders (and similarly, why would we limit that to french language ?). Possibly a lever to negociate with organisations such as ESA, which would benefit all of us. And quite possibly as well, more donations, since we are currently in the middle of a fund drive (more money will benefit all of us).
We are together in this Ilario. Not just french, or just italian ;-)
ant
We are in first page of Le Monde, with several pages included inside. Le Monde is the *first* newspaper in France. This is an amazing day.
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The implications might be various. Possibly an impact on the publication of a DVD (which might be interesting for more than just french people).
On a DVD my father and a bussinessparter for his have been experimenting with a DVD edition for the nl.wikipedia. They are interested in a recent dump. Once they figure out all technicalities, we want to talk with the board about it.
Waerth/Walter
--- Anthere anthere9@yahoo.com a écrit :
(...)In particular we can expect
- more fear from all those we are currently in
competition with, so possibly more attacks 2) but mostly more interest from potential partners, be it firms, organisations, associations, academics etc...
...and 3) more media attention. When will we see you on TF1 ? :-)
Traroth
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Traroth wrote:
--- Anthere anthere9@yahoo.com a écrit :
(...)In particular we can expect
- more fear from all those we are currently in
competition with, so possibly more attacks 2) but mostly more interest from potential partners, be it firms, organisations, associations, academics etc...
...and 3) more media attention. When will we see you on TF1 ? :-)
Traroth
Me ? Unlikely to happen before long :-) I will soon be "immobilized" in my city for many months. Many wikipedians are in Paris, and media does not like going to a remote city when they have just what they need in the capital ;-)
ant (getting slowly but surely, bigger, in Clermont Ferrand)
PS : but my mail box state is sure reflecting the Le Monde article.
Congrats :)
Walter/Waerth
We are in first page of Le Monde, with several pages included inside. Le Monde is the *first* newspaper in France. This is an amazing day.
Anthere
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On 9/2/05, Anthere anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
We are in first page of Le Monde, with several pages included inside. Le Monde is the *first* newspaper in France. This is an amazing day.
C'est fantastique! :-)
C
Anthere wrote:
We are in first page of Le Monde, with several pages included inside. Le Monde is the *first* newspaper in France. This is an amazing day.
Anthere
Is that only on the website or also on "la une" of the paper version ?
On 9/2/05, Ashar Voultoiz hashar@altern.org wrote:
We are in first page of Le Monde, with several pages included inside. Le Monde is the *first* newspaper in France. This is an amazing day.
Is that only on the website or also on "la une" of the paper version ?
Also the paper version... today's (3rd September) edition.
Which is...even more than great :D
Just to make things clear, Le Monde is not the *biggest* newspaper in France, as it prints only around 350000 ex a day, far from the first daily newspaper in France "Ouest France" (more than a million) but in terms of recognition, it is definitely one of the greatest. Making it to the first page of Le Monde is *big*.
Delphine
French folks, congrats!
FYI, there was also a large four page spread in China's Lifeweek magazine about the Wikimania conference, and a long Q&A with Jimbo. And it has an artistic portrait of Jimbo. See:
http://www.lifeweek.com.cn/2005-09-02/0000412932.shtml
May mess up in Firefox, as it did with me (bad MIME type?). Safari seems to be OK.
-Andrew (User:Fuzheado)
On 9/3/05, Delphine Ménard notafishz@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/2/05, Ashar Voultoiz hashar@altern.org wrote:
We are in first page of Le Monde, with several pages included inside. Le Monde is the *first* newspaper in France. This is an amazing day.
Is that only on the website or also on "la une" of the paper version ?
Also the paper version... today's (3rd September) edition.
Which is...even more than great :D
Just to make things clear, Le Monde is not the *biggest* newspaper in France, as it prints only around 350000 ex a day, far from the first daily newspaper in France "Ouest France" (more than a million) but in terms of recognition, it is definitely one of the greatest. Making it to the first page of Le Monde is *big*.
Delphine
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2005/9/2, Anthere <anthere9(at)yahoo.com>:
We are in first page of Le Monde, with several pages included inside. Le Monde is the *first* newspaper in France. This is an amazing day.
Congratulations on behalf of the Polish Wikipedia (which will hit 100k articles this month ;).
Anthere
Vive la fête !
Anthere a écrit :
We are in first page of Le Monde, with several pages included inside. Le Monde is the *first* newspaper in France. This is an amazing day.
Anthere
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We are in first page of Le Monde, with several pages included inside. Le Monde is the *first* newspaper in France. This is an amazing day.
Anthere
It's nice :)
Anthere wrote:
We are in first page of Le Monde, with several pages included inside. Le Monde is the *first* newspaper in France. This is an amazing day. http://www.lemonde.fr/
Congratulations to the media attention! However, that article refers to http://wikipedia.fr/ and the website at this URL opens a frameset which includes fr.wikipedia.org. This has the unfortunate effect that the web browser's address field says http://wikipedia.fr/ even when I go to other articles, making it harder to find a bookmarkable URL for pages. It would be easy enough for fr.wikipedia.org to contain some JavaScript that escapes the enclosing frameset, but it would be better to change wikipedia.fr into a redirect instead of this evil frameset.
Lars Aronsson wrote:
Congratulations to the media attention! However, that article refers to http://wikipedia.fr/ and the website at this URL opens a frameset which includes fr.wikipedia.org. This has the unfortunate effect that the web browser's address field says http://wikipedia.fr/ even when I go to other articles, making it harder to find a bookmarkable URL for pages. It would be easy enough for fr.wikipedia.org to contain some JavaScript that escapes the enclosing frameset,
We do have such JavaScript, and it seems to work fine there in breaking out so fr.wikipedia.org reaches the top-level. (Tested Safari 2.0.1)
but it would be better to change wikipedia.fr into a redirect instead of this evil frameset.
Do we own or control it?
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Brion Vibber wrote:
Lars Aronsson wrote:
Congratulations to the media attention! However, that article refers to http://wikipedia.fr/ and the website at this URL opens a frameset which includes fr.wikipedia.org. This has the unfortunate effect that the web browser's address field says http://wikipedia.fr/ even when I go to other articles, making it harder to find a bookmarkable URL for pages. It would be easy enough for fr.wikipedia.org to contain some JavaScript that escapes the enclosing frameset,
We do have such JavaScript, and it seems to work fine there in breaking out so fr.wikipedia.org reaches the top-level. (Tested Safari 2.0.1)
but it would be better to change wikipedia.fr into a redirect instead of this evil frameset.
Do we own or control it?
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Not the Foundation.
A french a**h*** bought it last fall when we first started to be featured in the press. We know who he is. We had mail exchanges with him already to try to get it back.
For now, he redirects to us, with a bad title and some frame issues editors frequently complain about, but AT LEAST he redirects to us rather than making cash with a mirror or anything else. This could be worse...(see http://wikipedia.ru/)
We now have valid trademarks. So the Foundation could normally get the domain back by going legal. I think we'll do if he starts being really a problem. For now, stand by...
Ant
Anthere wrote:
Brion Vibber wrote:
Lars Aronsson wrote:
Congratulations to the media attention! However, that article refers to http://wikipedia.fr/ and the website at this URL opens a frameset which includes fr.wikipedia.org. This has the unfortunate effect that the web browser's address field says http://wikipedia.fr/ even when I go to other articles, making it harder to find a bookmarkable URL for pages. It would be easy enough for fr.wikipedia.org to contain some JavaScript that escapes the enclosing frameset,
We do have such JavaScript, and it seems to work fine there in breaking out so fr.wikipedia.org reaches the top-level. (Tested Safari 2.0.1)
but it would be better to change wikipedia.fr into a redirect instead of this evil frameset.
Do we own or control it?
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Not the Foundation.
A french a**h*** bought it last fall when we first started to be featured in the press. We know who he is. We had mail exchanges with him already to try to get it back.
For now, he redirects to us, with a bad title and some frame issues editors frequently complain about, but AT LEAST he redirects to us rather than making cash with a mirror or anything else. This could be worse...(see http://wikipedia.ru/)
We now have valid trademarks. So the Foundation could normally get the domain back by going legal. I think we'll do if he starts being really a problem. For now, stand by...
Ant
In case someone feels the need to say "YOU SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT IT BEFORE"... we agree. But in France, only french legal organisations can buy domains in .fr
A year ago, Wikimedia France did not existed yet. And the Foundation could not legally purchase it. We crossed our fingers for no one to steal it. And it was stolen about 2-3 weeks before the association founding meeting.
Ant
On 9/3/05, Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote:
We do have such JavaScript, and it seems to work fine there in breaking out so fr.wikipedia.org reaches the top-level. (Tested Safari 2.0.1)
It stays inside the frame using Firefox 1.0.6, even when I click an external link and go somewhere else entirely.
Angela.
Angela wrote:
On 9/3/05, Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote:
We do have such JavaScript, and it seems to work fine there in breaking out so fr.wikipedia.org reaches the top-level. (Tested Safari 2.0.1)
It stays inside the frame using Firefox 1.0.6, even when I click an external link and go somewhere else entirely.
This should be fixed now. (Pending cache clearing etc...)
Someone tried to put in an exception for some site to the frame blocker, which in fact stopped it from working entirely on most browsers.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Lars Aronsson wrote:
Anthere wrote:
We are in first page of Le Monde, with several pages included inside. Le Monde is the *first* newspaper in France. This is an amazing day. http://www.lemonde.fr/
Congratulations to the media attention! However, that article refers to http://wikipedia.fr/ and the website at this URL opens a frameset which includes fr.wikipedia.org. This has the unfortunate effect that the web browser's address field says http://wikipedia.fr/ even when I go to other articles, making it harder to find a bookmarkable URL for pages. It would be easy enough for fr.wikipedia.org to contain some JavaScript that escapes the enclosing frameset, but it would be better to change wikipedia.fr into a redirect instead of this evil frameset.
by the way, the frame issue was several times discussed on irc. It seems most browsers do a total redirect. Only a couple of editors reported the framing issue.
I do not know if *we* can do something on this.
Ant
by the way, the frame issue was several times discussed on irc. It seems most browsers do a total redirect. Only a couple of editors reported the framing issue. I do not know if *we* can do something on this. Ant
I get a frame both in IE and in Firefox.
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