Wikipedias follow the ISO 639 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639>language code standard, where "uk" is the code for the Ukrainian language. The chapter sites, however, use the ISO 3166<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166>standard for country codes, and "ua" is the code for the country of Ukraine. (There is however the fact that the ISO 3166 code for the United Kingdom is "gb", while "uk" is unused; our usage however mirrors that of the country code top level domains<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_code_top-level_domain> .) 2009/7/22 Pavlo Shevelo &lt;pavlo.shevelo(a)gmail.com&gt; -- Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by

Pavlo Shevelo wrote: I suggest a hatnote on the main page of the site: "This is the website of Wikimedia United Kingdom. For other uses, see uk.wikimedia.org (disambiguation)."

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:36 AM, Nikola Smolenski&lt;smolensk(a)eunet.yu&gt; wrote: I actually coined the word "hatnote" - probably in violation of our 'no neologisms' policy. By the way, I think I'm currently blocked from the list, so I'm not thinking this will get posted anyway. -Steven

Hi Pavlo, I'm glad this issue has risen up here and I'm sure the United Kingdom and Ukraine chapters can come up with something together that solves this rather ----- "Pavlo Shevelo" &lt;pavlo.shevelo(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

Hi Andrew, Shure, we *have to* :) do so No sense to bother everybody by details. Pavlo Shevelo On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Andrew Turvey&lt;andrewrturvey(a)googlemail.com&gt; wrote: > Hi Pavlo, > > I'm glad this issue has risen up here and I'm sure the United Kingdom and > Ukraine chapters can come up with something together that solves this to > both chapters satisfaction. > > > Regards, > > Andrew Turvey > Secretary > Wikimedia UK > Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited. > Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. > The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United > Kingdom. > > > ----- "Pavlo Shevelo" &lt;pavlo.shevelo(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >> From: "Pavlo Shevelo" &lt;pavlo.shevelo(a)gmail.com&gt; >> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" &lt;foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; >> Sent: Wednesday, 22 July, 2009 10:26:02 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, >> Portugal >> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in >> Wikimedia jargon >> >> Hello Teofilo, >> >> I appreciate a lot that you rose up this issue of confusion (I was >> planning to do that myself a bit later). >> >> I'm from Ukrainian WP (recently - from WMF chapter for Ukraine as >> well) and I've met many times those confusions/misunderstandings >> starting from >> http://uk.wikipedia.org >> vs. >> http://uk.wikimedia.org >> >> I'm sure that this issue deserves some portion of attention & thorough >> brainstorming ;) >> >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Teofilo&lt;teofilowiki(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >> > Hello everybody; >> > >> > This is to say that I have written a piece on this topic at : >> > >> > >> > http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#uk.wikimedia.org_is_Wikimedia_U… >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > foundation-l mailing list >> > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-l mailing list >> foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > > -- > > > Andrew Turvey > Secretary > Wikimedia UK > Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited. > Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. > The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United > Kingdom. > >

What for? (: To arrange mailing between two chapters? :) On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Cary Bass&lt;cary(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Pavlo Shevelo wrote: >> Hi Andrew, >> >>> Could we take this offline and start a bilateral discussion >>> rather than doing this via an open mailing list. >> >> Shure, we *have to* :) do so No sense to bother everybody by >> details. >> >> Pavlo Shevelo >> > > - -- > Cary Bass > Volunteer Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation > > Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >

2009/7/22 Marco Chiesa &lt;chiesa.marco(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: At the moment the site is hosted by the WMF so is at a WMF domain, our domain redirects to that. At some point we will probably want to set up our own server(s) and then the confusion will be eliminated. It might make sense to put a note at the top of the main page linking to the Ukrainian Wikipedia.

2009/7/22 Pavlo Shevelo &lt;pavlo.shevelo(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: I'm not sure how the WMF servers are set up, it might be possible to direct our domain directly at their servers... Worth looking into. Not really. It depends on both when we have the funds to do it (hopefully in the next year) and when we feel we would gain significantly from it (which could be longer - at the moment the WMF's setup works perfectly well for us). Good question. I don't know. I would guess not - it would require our servers to have a connection to the WMF database server...

2009/7/22 Pavlo Shevelo &lt;pavlo.shevelo(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: It depends on how the WMF has everything set up. They have a complicated setup for hosting multiple wikis, it may well be hard-coded that they all use the WMF domains. I'm cross-posting this to wikitech-l, hopefully someone there can clarify the situation. Can a wiki hosted on the WMF servers use a non-WMF domain?

Hello Aryeh, Thanks a lot for your prompt and informative input. Obviously special thanks goes to Thomas Dalton for swift move for consultation. All other details are taken already to direct mailing between two chapters (Wikimedia UK/GB and Wikimedia UA) in order not to bother (or bore :) ) mailing list members. Thanks again to everybody involved and contributed. Regards, Pavlo Shevelo On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Aryeh Gregor&lt;Simetrical+wikilist(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

Yes same issue for Sinhala (of Sri Lanka) and the country code for Slovenia - SI or Burmese and Malaysia - MY or Virgin Islands and Vietnamese - VI. I'm sure there are several other cases as well. Mark On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Milos Rancic&lt;millosh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

Hoi, If you are going to solve this, then it is the cheapest not to wait. Thanks, GerardM 2009/7/22 Milos Rancic &lt;millosh(a)gmail.com&gt;