I find this rather disturbing that Airtasker accepts adds for people wanting to have articles written, on wikipedia.
The person writing the add is asking someone to violate WMF terms & Conditions as you can some of the respondents are indicating that they do this regularly
https://www.airtasker.com/tasks/copywriter-for-a-wikipedia-article-10031171/
Would it be prudent for the WMF legal to contact Airtasker, highlight our T&Cs and have them block such requests from being posted. Airtasker themselves also gets paid when people write Wikipedia articles
From discussions I have seen on the en.wiki Village pump and various ANs, I believe the WMF has no legal foothold to ask another website to respect our TOU.
On May 24, 2018, at 5:28 AM, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
I find this rather disturbing that Airtasker accepts adds for people wanting to have articles written, on wikipedia.
The person writing the add is asking someone to violate WMF terms & Conditions as you can some of the respondents are indicating that they do this regularly
https://www.airtasker.com/tasks/copywriter-for-a-wikipedia-article-10031171/
Would it be prudent for the WMF legal to contact Airtasker, highlight our T&Cs and have them block such requests from being posted. Airtasker themselves also gets paid when people write Wikipedia articles
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On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 3:28 AM, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
Would it be prudent for the WMF legal to contact Airtasker
You might want to ask legal directly at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal#Wikimedia_Foundation_Email_Contacts
In what way are they proposing to violate WMF terms and conditions? Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gnangarra Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 12:29 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Airtasker adds for articles
I find this rather disturbing that Airtasker accepts adds for people wanting to have articles written, on wikipedia.
The person writing the add is asking someone to violate WMF terms & Conditions as you can some of the respondents are indicating that they do this regularly
https://www.airtasker.com/tasks/copywriter-for-a-wikipedia-article-10031171/
Would it be prudent for the WMF legal to contact Airtasker, highlight our T&Cs and have them block such requests from being posted. Airtasker themselves also gets paid when people write Wikipedia articles
Shouldn't articles be judged independently of who exactly wrote them and for what reason?
If an article reads well, has good content, is sourced, neutral etc, what's the issue exactly?
On 24 May 2018 at 12:28, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
I find this rather disturbing that Airtasker accepts adds for people wanting to have articles written, on wikipedia.
The person writing the add is asking someone to violate WMF terms & Conditions as you can some of the respondents are indicating that they do this regularly
https://www.airtasker.com/tasks/copywriter-for-a- wikipedia-article-10031171/
Would it be prudent for the WMF legal to contact Airtasker, highlight our T&Cs and have them block such requests from being posted. Airtasker themselves also gets paid when people write Wikipedia articles
-- GN. Noongarpedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/nys/Main_Page WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com Out now: A.Gaynor, P. Newman and P. Jennings (eds.), *Never Again: Reflections on Environmental Responsibility after Roe 8*, UWAP, 2017. Order here https://uwap.uwa.edu.au/products/never-again- reflections-on-environmental-responsibility-after-roe-8 . _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
We have Terms of Use that require disclosure when people are involved in paid editing. Often paid editing occurs on obscure topics and we are unable to closely vet the volume of paid editing that is occurring, this means a lots of promotional content can and does slip through and make us look bad.
Trying to vet this volume of content also distracts good faith editors from work on more notable topics. Additionally this counts as covert advertising which in certain subject areas such as health is not permitted by organizations such as the FDA in the USA. Additional issues include that the accounts involved are often socks and the content in question is often "copy and pasted".
The same argument could be applied to banned editors, if they are producing good content why do we not allow banned editors to edit using socks?
James
On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Michel Vuijlsteke wikipedia@zog.org wrote:
Shouldn't articles be judged independently of who exactly wrote them and for what reason?
If an article reads well, has good content, is sourced, neutral etc, what's the issue exactly?
On 24 May 2018 at 12:28, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
I find this rather disturbing that Airtasker accepts adds for people wanting to have articles written, on wikipedia.
The person writing the add is asking someone to violate WMF terms & Conditions as you can some of the respondents are indicating that they do this regularly
https://www.airtasker.com/tasks/copywriter-for-a- wikipedia-article-10031171/
Would it be prudent for the WMF legal to contact Airtasker, highlight
our
T&Cs and have them block such requests from being posted. Airtasker themselves also gets paid when people write Wikipedia articles
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