A new major botgenerating effort is now under way on sv:wp. All lakes (30000, all down to ones of pondsizes with no name) is now produced based on lake data from Swedish metereology institute and all lake environment data from a newly set up authority demanded by EU, in order to register and track all data of lakes in all Europe.
The articles are generated by AWB and with some manual effort to take care of text in existing articles and a major effort taking care of all with the same name (Little lake, Black lake etc)
Examples http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96ren,_Sm%C3%A5land http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunn
Also on maps from Google or Bing you can localize all lakes if you do not know the name (and for the ones missing name) https://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://toolserver.org/~para/cgi-bin/kmlexport... or http://www.bing.com/maps/?mapurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftoolserver.org%2F%7Epara%2Fcgi...
As you can see the text is substantial around 5000 characters and even thing like fisharts in the lakes are generated from databases.
We are now starting to contemplate to put these type of basedata in Wikidata (we are experimenting with this for some adm units), and to generate the articles from that as a base instead of from database extracted from the authorities and put on personal PCs
We have excellent relations with involved authorities that are really happy with the result, and we are now being approached by other authorites who wants to follow and get their data from theirs databases used to generate qualified Wp articles (like all runestones, all archaeological excavations sites, all artworks placed on official grounds etc)
Are there any other effort like this going on, especially if any one come further in establish links from authorities databased to wikidata?
Anders
In Italian Wikipedia, we are in contact with the National Library of Florence, and are establishing links between Wikipedia articles and the New national Thesaurus.
Es. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q281108 In the Italian WP, we will have a sentence like https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aikido#Collegamenti_esterni
The bot on Wikidata is running right now, the bot in Wikipedia will run in the weekend.
Aubrey
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Anders Wennersten <mail@anderswennersten.se
wrote:
A new major botgenerating effort is now under way on sv:wp. All lakes (30000, all down to ones of pondsizes with no name) is now produced based on lake data from Swedish metereology institute and all lake environment data from a newly set up authority demanded by EU, in order to register and track all data of lakes in all Europe.
The articles are generated by AWB and with some manual effort to take care of text in existing articles and a major effort taking care of all with the same name (Little lake, Black lake etc)
Examples http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%**C3%96ren,_Sm%C3%A5landhttp://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96ren,_Sm%C3%A5land http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Bunn http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunn
Also on maps from Google or Bing you can localize all lakes if you do not know the name (and for the ones missing name) https://maps.google.com/maps?**q=http://toolserver.org/~para/** cgi-bin/kmlexport%3Fproject%**3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%** 253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%**2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%**2525B6pings_kommunhttps://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://toolserver.org/~para/cgi-bin/kmlexport%3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%2525B6pings_kommun or http://www.bing.com/maps/?**mapurl=http%3A%2F%** 2Ftoolserver.org%2F%7Epara%**2Fcgi-bin%2Fkmlexport%** 3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%**3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%** 2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%**2525C3%2525B6pings_kommunhttp://www.bing.com/maps/?mapurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftoolserver.org%2F%7Epara%2Fcgi-bin%2Fkmlexport%3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%2525B6pings_kommun
As you can see the text is substantial around 5000 characters and even thing like fisharts in the lakes are generated from databases.
We are now starting to contemplate to put these type of basedata in Wikidata (we are experimenting with this for some adm units), and to generate the articles from that as a base instead of from database extracted from the authorities and put on personal PCs
We have excellent relations with involved authorities that are really happy with the result, and we are now being approached by other authorites who wants to follow and get their data from theirs databases used to generate qualified Wp articles (like all runestones, all archaeological excavations sites, all artworks placed on official grounds etc)
Are there any other effort like this going on, especially if any one come further in establish links from authorities databased to wikidata?
Anders
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On 16 May 2013 18:36, Anders Wennersten mail@anderswennersten.se wrote:
All lakes (30000, all down to ones of pondsizes with no name) is now produced based on lake data from Swedish metereology institute and all lake environment data from a newly set up authority demanded by EU, in order to register and track all data of lakes in all Europe.
The articles are generated by AWB and with some manual effort to take care of text in existing articles and a major effort taking care of all with the same name (Little lake, Black lake etc)
Are these all on OpenStreetMap, too?
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
On 16/05/13 23:18, Andy Mabbett wrote:
On 16 May 2013 18:36, Anders Wennersten mail@anderswennersten.se wrote:
All lakes (30000, all down to ones of pondsizes with no name) is now produced based on lake data from Swedish metereology institute and all lake environment data from a newly set up authority demanded by EU, in order to register and track all data of lakes in all Europe.
The articles are generated by AWB and with some manual effort to take care of text in existing articles and a major effort taking care of all with the same name (Little lake, Black lake etc)
Are these all on OpenStreetMap, too?
We will know when people start filling in http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P402
Very cool project. Do you know how many lakes are there in other European countries (or website/datasets)?
It is for this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Emijrp/All_human_knowledge#Lakes
2013/5/16 Anders Wennersten mail@anderswennersten.se
A new major botgenerating effort is now under way on sv:wp. All lakes (30000, all down to ones of pondsizes with no name) is now produced based on lake data from Swedish metereology institute and all lake environment data from a newly set up authority demanded by EU, in order to register and track all data of lakes in all Europe.
The articles are generated by AWB and with some manual effort to take care of text in existing articles and a major effort taking care of all with the same name (Little lake, Black lake etc)
Examples http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%**C3%96ren,_Sm%C3%A5landhttp://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96ren,_Sm%C3%A5land http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Bunn http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunn
Also on maps from Google or Bing you can localize all lakes if you do not know the name (and for the ones missing name) https://maps.google.com/maps?**q=http://toolserver.org/~para/** cgi-bin/kmlexport%3Fproject%**3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%** 253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%**2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%**2525B6pings_kommunhttps://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://toolserver.org/~para/cgi-bin/kmlexport%3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%2525B6pings_kommun or http://www.bing.com/maps/?**mapurl=http%3A%2F%** 2Ftoolserver.org%2F%7Epara%**2Fcgi-bin%2Fkmlexport%** 3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%**3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%** 2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%**2525C3%2525B6pings_kommunhttp://www.bing.com/maps/?mapurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftoolserver.org%2F%7Epara%2Fcgi-bin%2Fkmlexport%3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%2525B6pings_kommun
As you can see the text is substantial around 5000 characters and even thing like fisharts in the lakes are generated from databases.
We are now starting to contemplate to put these type of basedata in Wikidata (we are experimenting with this for some adm units), and to generate the articles from that as a base instead of from database extracted from the authorities and put on personal PCs
We have excellent relations with involved authorities that are really happy with the result, and we are now being approached by other authorites who wants to follow and get their data from theirs databases used to generate qualified Wp articles (like all runestones, all archaeological excavations sites, all artworks placed on official grounds etc)
Are there any other effort like this going on, especially if any one come further in establish links from authorities databased to wikidata?
Anders
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Sorry not, and what we have learned is how hard is to to define what a lake is
In Swden some mention there are 200 000 lakes, and that the Hydrology authority has data of over 150 000 but where less then 75 000 has a name and many with just rudimentary data. The lakes with environment impact data are 7 233 and in this project data with 100 dataitems per lake are collected from three authorities, and articles are generated into sv:wp for 57 648 (not 30 000) lakes. Only around a few percent of these are without name and the most common name is used by 645 unique lakes... (just to take care of the forkpages is a science in its own)
Anders
Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada skrev 2013-05-17 18:06:
Very cool project. Do you know how many lakes are there in other European countries (or website/datasets)?
It is for this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Emijrp/All_human_knowledge#Lakes
2013/5/16 Anders Wennersten mail@anderswennersten.se
A new major botgenerating effort is now under way on sv:wp. All lakes (30000, all down to ones of pondsizes with no name) is now produced based on lake data from Swedish metereology institute and all lake environment data from a newly set up authority demanded by EU, in order to register and track all data of lakes in all Europe.
The articles are generated by AWB and with some manual effort to take care of text in existing articles and a major effort taking care of all with the same name (Little lake, Black lake etc)
Examples http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%**C3%96ren,_Sm%C3%A5landhttp://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96ren,_Sm%C3%A5land http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Bunn http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunn
Also on maps from Google or Bing you can localize all lakes if you do not know the name (and for the ones missing name) https://maps.google.com/maps?**q=http://toolserver.org/~para/** cgi-bin/kmlexport%3Fproject%**3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%** 253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%**2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%**2525B6pings_kommunhttps://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://toolserver.org/~para/cgi-bin/kmlexport%3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%2525B6pings_kommun or http://www.bing.com/maps/?**mapurl=http%3A%2F%** 2Ftoolserver.org%2F%7Epara%**2Fcgi-bin%2Fkmlexport%** 3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%**3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%** 2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%**2525C3%2525B6pings_kommunhttp://www.bing.com/maps/?mapurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftoolserver.org%2F%7Epara%2Fcgi-bin%2Fkmlexport%3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%2525B6pings_kommun
As you can see the text is substantial around 5000 characters and even thing like fisharts in the lakes are generated from databases.
We are now starting to contemplate to put these type of basedata in Wikidata (we are experimenting with this for some adm units), and to generate the articles from that as a base instead of from database extracted from the authorities and put on personal PCs
We have excellent relations with involved authorities that are really happy with the result, and we are now being approached by other authorites who wants to follow and get their data from theirs databases used to generate qualified Wp articles (like all runestones, all archaeological excavations sites, all artworks placed on official grounds etc)
Are there any other effort like this going on, especially if any one come further in establish links from authorities databased to wikidata?
Anders
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Thanks. I have discovered some estimations of lakes for more countries, but no datasets.
Belarus: 11,000+ Canada: 31,752+ larger than 3 km² (2-3 million in total) Estonia: 1,000+ Finland: 187,888 lakes 500 m² or larger (56,000 over 10,000 m²) Latvia: 3,000+ Lithuania: 3,000+ Norway: 450,000+
2013/5/17 Anders Wennersten mail@anderswennersten.se
Sorry not, and what we have learned is how hard is to to define what a lake is
In Swden some mention there are 200 000 lakes, and that the Hydrology authority has data of over 150 000 but where less then 75 000 has a name and many with just rudimentary data. The lakes with environment impact data are 7 233 and in this project data with 100 dataitems per lake are collected from three authorities, and articles are generated into sv:wp for 57 648 (not 30 000) lakes. Only around a few percent of these are without name and the most common name is used by 645 unique lakes... (just to take care of the forkpages is a science in its own)
Anders
Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada skrev 2013-05-17 18:06:
Very cool project. Do you know how many lakes are there in other European countries (or website/datasets)?
It is for this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**User:Emijrp/All_human_**knowledge#Lakeshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Emijrp/All_human_knowledge#Lakes
2013/5/16 Anders Wennersten mail@anderswennersten.se
A new major botgenerating effort is now under way on sv:wp. All lakes
(30000, all down to ones of pondsizes with no name) is now produced based on lake data from Swedish metereology institute and all lake environment data from a newly set up authority demanded by EU, in order to register and track all data of lakes in all Europe.
The articles are generated by AWB and with some manual effort to take care of text in existing articles and a major effort taking care of all with the same name (Little lake, Black lake etc)
Examples http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%****C3%96ren,_Sm%C3%A5land<http:** //sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%**96ren,_Sm%C3%A5landhttp://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96ren,_Sm%C3%A5land
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Bunnhttp://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Bunn< http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Bunn http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunn>
Also on maps from Google or Bing you can localize all lakes if you do not know the name (and for the ones missing name) https://maps.google.com/maps?****q=http://toolserver.org/~**para/**https://maps.google.com/maps?**q=http://toolserver.org/~para/** cgi-bin/kmlexport%3Fproject%****3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%** 253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%****2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%**** 2525B6pings_kommun<https://**maps.google.com/maps?q=http://** toolserver.org/~para/cgi-bin/**kmlexport%3Fproject%3Dsv%** 26article%3DKategori%253AInsj%**2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%** 2525B6nk%2525C3%2525B6pings_**kommunhttps://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://toolserver.org/~para/cgi-bin/kmlexport%3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%2525B6pings_kommun
or http://www.bing.com/maps/?****mapurl=http%3A%2F%** 2Ftoolserver.org%2F%7Epara%****2Fcgi-bin%2Fkmlexport%** 3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%****3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%** 2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%****2525C3%2525B6pings_kommun<htt** p://www.bing.com/maps/?mapurl=**http%3A%2F%2Ftoolserver.org%** 2F%7Epara%2Fcgi-bin%**2Fkmlexport%3Fproject%3Dsv%** 26article%3DKategori%253AInsj%**2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%** 2525B6nk%2525C3%2525B6pings_**kommunhttp://www.bing.com/maps/?mapurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftoolserver.org%2F%7Epara%2Fcgi-bin%2Fkmlexport%3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%2525B6pings_kommun
As you can see the text is substantial around 5000 characters and even thing like fisharts in the lakes are generated from databases.
We are now starting to contemplate to put these type of basedata in Wikidata (we are experimenting with this for some adm units), and to generate the articles from that as a base instead of from database extracted from the authorities and put on personal PCs
We have excellent relations with involved authorities that are really happy with the result, and we are now being approached by other authorites who wants to follow and get their data from theirs databases used to generate qualified Wp articles (like all runestones, all archaeological excavations sites, all artworks placed on official grounds etc)
Are there any other effort like this going on, especially if any one come further in establish links from authorities databased to wikidata?
Anders
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