The official part of Wikimania is over, this does not prevent ourselves from celebrating Africa's first Wikimania online, in more particular: writing Wikipedia articles.
Africa is under represented in Wikipedia, by writing about it we both celebrate our great conference as well as we work on solving the Africagap
With some Dutchies we started the idea of having a list of like 10-20 articles of subjects from Cape Town and surrounding area. For example:
Well-known park in Cape Town: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company%27s_Garden
The often referred to Dassie: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q323847
Input needed!
Romaine
Hi Romaine,
What a nice idea! Thanks!
Dj "pundit"
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 20:25 Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
The official part of Wikimania is over, this does not prevent ourselves from celebrating Africa's first Wikimania online, in more particular: writing Wikipedia articles.
Africa is under represented in Wikipedia, by writing about it we both celebrate our great conference as well as we work on solving the Africagap
With some Dutchies we started the idea of having a list of like 10-20 articles of subjects from Cape Town and surrounding area. For example:
Well-known park in Cape Town: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company%27s_Garden
The often referred to Dassie: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q323847
Input needed!
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Chris Henner's proposal to limit future Wikimanias to the developing world caught my interest:
https://twitter.com/schiste/status/1020682919826939904
I'd certainly support that as we all ponder whether the US is a reasonable HQ anymore.
Best regards, Jim
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 12:26 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak darekj@alk.edu.pl wrote:
Hi Romaine,
What a nice idea! Thanks!
Dj "pundit"
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 20:25 Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
The official part of Wikimania is over, this does not prevent ourselves from celebrating Africa's first Wikimania online, in more particular: writing Wikipedia articles.
Africa is under represented in Wikipedia, by writing about it we both celebrate our great conference as well as we work on solving the Africagap
With some Dutchies we started the idea of having a list of like 10-20 articles of subjects from Cape Town and surrounding area. For example:
Well-known park in Cape Town: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company%27s_Garden
The often referred to Dassie: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q323847
Input needed!
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Great idea Romaine!
I am now working on Esperanto Wikivoyage (in Incubator), mostly to make it fully working. Now I am finishing Europe and immediately after that I will focus on Africa (not only for the Africagap and to help our colleagues but also to support tourism and facilitate meetings in Africa).
See you online! KuboF Hromoslav
po 23. 7. 2018 o 20:25 Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com napísal(a):
The official part of Wikimania is over, this does not prevent ourselves from celebrating Africa's first Wikimania online, in more particular: writing Wikipedia articles.
Africa is under represented in Wikipedia, by writing about it we both celebrate our great conference as well as we work on solving the Africagap
With some Dutchies we started the idea of having a list of like 10-20 articles of subjects from Cape Town and surrounding area. For example:
Well-known park in Cape Town: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company%27s_Garden
The often referred to Dassie: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q323847
Input needed!
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Hoi, I do blog and tweet using #AfricaGap.. At this time I am adding countries and their "administrative and territorial entities" in Wikidata. In many a Wikipedia, they want to have "human settlements" linked to the lowest level and these to every time a higher level.
What I do is add more and more countries. The information is incomplete. It takes a lot of people and a lot of time to get this done. To gain participation, I add Listeria list to a set of Wikipedias. I work on cleaning up the data but there is much to be done. One of the benefits of the Listeria lists for me is that I notice any and all activity. After Wikimania there was a spike, thanks to some bot work.
What I have noticed is that information on Wikipedias did not keep up with changes that rearanged these "territories". Consequently start and end dates are missing on many items. For me, the current situation is most relevant and historic "territories" are not really considered by me.
You find what I am working on here [1]. You will find much of the same data on several (African language) Wikipedias. Thanks, GerardM
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GerardM/Africa#African_geographical_subdi...
On 26 July 2018 at 12:33, KuboF Hromoslav kubof.hromoslav@gmail.com wrote:
Great idea Romaine!
I am now working on Esperanto Wikivoyage (in Incubator), mostly to make it fully working. Now I am finishing Europe and immediately after that I will focus on Africa (not only for the Africagap and to help our colleagues but also to support tourism and facilitate meetings in Africa).
See you online! KuboF Hromoslav
po 23. 7. 2018 o 20:25 Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com napísal(a):
The official part of Wikimania is over, this does not prevent ourselves from celebrating Africa's first Wikimania online, in more particular: writing Wikipedia articles.
Africa is under represented in Wikipedia, by writing about it we both celebrate our great conference as well as we work on solving the
Africagap
With some Dutchies we started the idea of having a list of like 10-20 articles of subjects from Cape Town and surrounding area. For example:
Well-known park in Cape Town: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company%27s_Garden
The often referred to Dassie: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q323847
Input needed!
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Hi Gerard,
when you come to Mozambique, pls let me know, there are reliable sources down to the third level administrative divisions. For example, the two sources present in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzi_District
are available for every district (though I so far only added about half of them to the English Wikipedia articles).
Cheers Yaroslav
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, I do blog and tweet using #AfricaGap.. At this time I am adding countries and their "administrative and territorial entities" in Wikidata. In many a Wikipedia, they want to have "human settlements" linked to the lowest level and these to every time a higher level.
What I do is add more and more countries. The information is incomplete. It takes a lot of people and a lot of time to get this done. To gain participation, I add Listeria list to a set of Wikipedias. I work on cleaning up the data but there is much to be done. One of the benefits of the Listeria lists for me is that I notice any and all activity. After Wikimania there was a spike, thanks to some bot work.
What I have noticed is that information on Wikipedias did not keep up with changes that rearanged these "territories". Consequently start and end dates are missing on many items. For me, the current situation is most relevant and historic "territories" are not really considered by me.
You find what I am working on here [1]. You will find much of the same data on several (African language) Wikipedias. Thanks, GerardM
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GerardM/Africa#African_ geographical_subdivisions
On 26 July 2018 at 12:33, KuboF Hromoslav kubof.hromoslav@gmail.com wrote:
Great idea Romaine!
I am now working on Esperanto Wikivoyage (in Incubator), mostly to make
it
fully working. Now I am finishing Europe and immediately after that I
will
focus on Africa (not only for the Africagap and to help our colleagues
but
also to support tourism and facilitate meetings in Africa).
See you online! KuboF Hromoslav
po 23. 7. 2018 o 20:25 Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com napísal(a):
The official part of Wikimania is over, this does not prevent ourselves from celebrating Africa's first Wikimania online, in more particular: writing Wikipedia articles.
Africa is under represented in Wikipedia, by writing about it we both celebrate our great conference as well as we work on solving the
Africagap
With some Dutchies we started the idea of having a list of like 10-20 articles of subjects from Cape Town and surrounding area. For example:
Well-known park in Cape Town: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company%27s_Garden
The often referred to Dassie: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q323847
Input needed!
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Hi Yaroslav ,
I'm working with Mozambique as well. I've been thinking about adding all those divisions to Wikidata, and then generating the Wikipédia articles from that info (not "live", though, just copying the information). I believe it would be much quicker, and would fill and correct Wikidata entries on the way.
If you are interested in using something like that, please drop me a note.
All the best,
Paulo
2018-07-26 17:25 GMT+01:00 Yaroslav Blanter ymbalt@gmail.com:
Hi Gerard,
when you come to Mozambique, pls let me know, there are reliable sources down to the third level administrative divisions. For example, the two sources present in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzi_District
are available for every district (though I so far only added about half of them to the English Wikipedia articles).
Cheers Yaroslav
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Gerard Meijssen < gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi, I do blog and tweet using #AfricaGap.. At this time I am adding
countries
and their "administrative and territorial entities" in Wikidata. In many
a
Wikipedia, they want to have "human settlements" linked to the lowest
level
and these to every time a higher level.
What I do is add more and more countries. The information is incomplete.
It
takes a lot of people and a lot of time to get this done. To gain participation, I add Listeria list to a set of Wikipedias. I work on cleaning up the data but there is much to be done. One of the benefits of the Listeria lists for me is that I notice any and all activity. After Wikimania there was a spike, thanks to some bot work.
What I have noticed is that information on Wikipedias did not keep up
with
changes that rearanged these "territories". Consequently start and end dates are missing on many items. For me, the current situation is most relevant and historic "territories" are not really considered by me.
You find what I am working on here [1]. You will find much of the same
data
on several (African language) Wikipedias. Thanks, GerardM
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GerardM/Africa#African_ geographical_subdivisions
On 26 July 2018 at 12:33, KuboF Hromoslav kubof.hromoslav@gmail.com wrote:
Great idea Romaine!
I am now working on Esperanto Wikivoyage (in Incubator), mostly to make
it
fully working. Now I am finishing Europe and immediately after that I
will
focus on Africa (not only for the Africagap and to help our colleagues
but
also to support tourism and facilitate meetings in Africa).
See you online! KuboF Hromoslav
po 23. 7. 2018 o 20:25 Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com
napísal(a):
The official part of Wikimania is over, this does not prevent
ourselves
from celebrating Africa's first Wikimania online, in more particular: writing Wikipedia articles.
Africa is under represented in Wikipedia, by writing about it we both celebrate our great conference as well as we work on solving the
Africagap
With some Dutchies we started the idea of having a list of like 10-20 articles of subjects from Cape Town and surrounding area. For
example:
Well-known park in Cape Town: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company%27s_Garden
The often referred to Dassie: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q323847
Input needed!
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Hoi, I have added the minimal I have to do for Mozambique [1]. They are three Listeria lists and consequently they will update. I do work on the data but my objective is not to complete them all. I add the relation to the higher level "administrative and territorial entity". To do this I often add new ones and change items that are a combination of two levels (eg a town and an entity). These are different, require different statements.
What I also do is copy these queries to Wikipedias. I do that when I do that. Now I am working on the Zulu Wikipedia so the Yoruba and other Wikipedias have to wait.
My wish is for people to notice this work, contribute to it and use the result in templates. In the Celtic Knot conference, at the recent Wikimania, presentations were made how information can be provided from Wikidata using infoboxes that require little expertise and work. When a small Wikipedia does not have basic information like the places where people were born or died, that information has to be available from something different from articles. When it is not possible to link, the article will quickly become rather empty.
There is an ongoing discussion to update the Incubator project by providing them with wikis. Supporting them with data is something I have advocated for years. Particularly Africa has not been treated equally, the information / data gap is huge. Have a look at this as well when you care for Mozambique [2]. Thanks, GerardM
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GerardM/Geography_of_Mozambique [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GerardM/Africa#Mozambique
On 27 July 2018 at 00:25, Paulo Santos Perneta paulosperneta@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Yaroslav ,
I'm working with Mozambique as well. I've been thinking about adding all those divisions to Wikidata, and then generating the Wikipédia articles from that info (not "live", though, just copying the information). I believe it would be much quicker, and would fill and correct Wikidata entries on the way.
If you are interested in using something like that, please drop me a note.
All the best,
Paulo
2018-07-26 17:25 GMT+01:00 Yaroslav Blanter ymbalt@gmail.com:
Hi Gerard,
when you come to Mozambique, pls let me know, there are reliable sources down to the third level administrative divisions. For example, the two sources present in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzi_District
are available for every district (though I so far only added about half
of
them to the English Wikipedia articles).
Cheers Yaroslav
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Gerard Meijssen < gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi, I do blog and tweet using #AfricaGap.. At this time I am adding
countries
and their "administrative and territorial entities" in Wikidata. In
many
a
Wikipedia, they want to have "human settlements" linked to the lowest
level
and these to every time a higher level.
What I do is add more and more countries. The information is
incomplete.
It
takes a lot of people and a lot of time to get this done. To gain participation, I add Listeria list to a set of Wikipedias. I work on cleaning up the data but there is much to be done. One of the benefits
of
the Listeria lists for me is that I notice any and all activity. After Wikimania there was a spike, thanks to some bot work.
What I have noticed is that information on Wikipedias did not keep up
with
changes that rearanged these "territories". Consequently start and end dates are missing on many items. For me, the current situation is most relevant and historic "territories" are not really considered by me.
You find what I am working on here [1]. You will find much of the same
data
on several (African language) Wikipedias. Thanks, GerardM
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GerardM/Africa#African_ geographical_subdivisions
On 26 July 2018 at 12:33, KuboF Hromoslav kubof.hromoslav@gmail.com wrote:
Great idea Romaine!
I am now working on Esperanto Wikivoyage (in Incubator), mostly to
make
it
fully working. Now I am finishing Europe and immediately after that I
will
focus on Africa (not only for the Africagap and to help our
colleagues
but
also to support tourism and facilitate meetings in Africa).
See you online! KuboF Hromoslav
po 23. 7. 2018 o 20:25 Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com
napísal(a):
The official part of Wikimania is over, this does not prevent
ourselves
from celebrating Africa's first Wikimania online, in more
particular:
writing Wikipedia articles.
Africa is under represented in Wikipedia, by writing about it we
both
celebrate our great conference as well as we work on solving the
Africagap
With some Dutchies we started the idea of having a list of like
10-20
articles of subjects from Cape Town and surrounding area. For
example:
Well-known park in Cape Town: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company%27s_Garden
The often referred to Dassie: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q323847
Input needed!
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Hi Paulo,
in the first instance, I am interested in improving articles on the Mozambique districts on the English Wikipedia. I have already done that for the southern half of the country (Buzi District which I references to is a representative example of how I see these articles).
I was not planning to do anything specific about these districts on Wikidata or elsewhere, but if you think it would be useful we can discuss and do smth.
(I will be on holidays for two weeks starting tomorrow, my user name is Ymblanter).
Cheers Yaroslav
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:25 AM, Paulo Santos Perneta < paulosperneta@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Yaroslav ,
I'm working with Mozambique as well. I've been thinking about adding all those divisions to Wikidata, and then generating the Wikipédia articles from that info (not "live", though, just copying the information). I believe it would be much quicker, and would fill and correct Wikidata entries on the way.
If you are interested in using something like that, please drop me a note.
All the best,
Paulo
2018-07-26 17:25 GMT+01:00 Yaroslav Blanter ymbalt@gmail.com:
Hi Gerard,
when you come to Mozambique, pls let me know, there are reliable sources down to the third level administrative divisions. For example, the two sources present in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzi_District
are available for every district (though I so far only added about half
of
them to the English Wikipedia articles).
Cheers Yaroslav
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Gerard Meijssen < gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi, I do blog and tweet using #AfricaGap.. At this time I am adding
countries
and their "administrative and territorial entities" in Wikidata. In
many
a
Wikipedia, they want to have "human settlements" linked to the lowest
level
and these to every time a higher level.
What I do is add more and more countries. The information is
incomplete.
It
takes a lot of people and a lot of time to get this done. To gain participation, I add Listeria list to a set of Wikipedias. I work on cleaning up the data but there is much to be done. One of the benefits
of
the Listeria lists for me is that I notice any and all activity. After Wikimania there was a spike, thanks to some bot work.
What I have noticed is that information on Wikipedias did not keep up
with
changes that rearanged these "territories". Consequently start and end dates are missing on many items. For me, the current situation is most relevant and historic "territories" are not really considered by me.
You find what I am working on here [1]. You will find much of the same
data
on several (African language) Wikipedias. Thanks, GerardM
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GerardM/Africa#African_ geographical_subdivisions
On 26 July 2018 at 12:33, KuboF Hromoslav kubof.hromoslav@gmail.com wrote:
Great idea Romaine!
I am now working on Esperanto Wikivoyage (in Incubator), mostly to
make
it
fully working. Now I am finishing Europe and immediately after that I
will
focus on Africa (not only for the Africagap and to help our
colleagues
but
also to support tourism and facilitate meetings in Africa).
See you online! KuboF Hromoslav
po 23. 7. 2018 o 20:25 Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com
napísal(a):
The official part of Wikimania is over, this does not prevent
ourselves
from celebrating Africa's first Wikimania online, in more
particular:
writing Wikipedia articles.
Africa is under represented in Wikipedia, by writing about it we
both
celebrate our great conference as well as we work on solving the
Africagap
With some Dutchies we started the idea of having a list of like
10-20
articles of subjects from Cape Town and surrounding area. For
example:
Well-known park in Cape Town: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company%27s_Garden
The often referred to Dassie: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q323847
Input needed!
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