Does anyone know when the enwiki dump will get fixed?
In response to Fred, I doubt you will ever get any of the ISP's on anyone's side but their own. They have no incentive to listen and Wikipedia has a serious credibility problem with many of them due to the fact that any of the 600+ admins can file these reports, and many of them are malicious and spoofed. Your suggestion they should only come from the ARBCOM is a good one. Last time an administrator sent an ISP complaint in on me last year, the email was thrown in the trash -- and after they reviewed the article on me and the press issues with the JFK story, they told me they won't ever accept them again from Wikipedia.
There's also the problem with the Asian ISP's -- they could care less and won't respond, esspecially the ones in Taiwan -- I've tried.
Jeff
On 8/7/06, Jeffrey V. Merkey jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com wrote:
Does anyone know when the enwiki dump will get fixed?
In response to Fred, I doubt you will ever get any of the ISP's on anyone's side but their own. They have no incentive to listen and Wikipedia has a serious credibility problem with many of them due to the fact that any of the 600+ admins can file these reports, and many of them are malicious and spoofed. Your suggestion they should only come from the ARBCOM is a good one. Last time an administrator sent an ISP complaint in on me last year, the email was thrown in the trash -- and after they reviewed the article on me and the press issues with the JFK story, they told me they won't ever accept them again from Wikipedia.
There's also the problem with the Asian ISP's -- they could care less and won't respond, esspecially the ones in Taiwan -- I've tried.
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Basically, the foundation needs to make these complaints via official channels. There is no use for each admin to bombard them with such complaints.
Nathan Carter wrote:
On 8/7/06, Jeffrey V. Merkey jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com wrote:
Does anyone know when the enwiki dump will get fixed?
In response to Fred, I doubt you will ever get any of the ISP's on anyone's side but their own. They have no incentive to listen and Wikipedia has a serious credibility problem with many of them due to the fact that any of the 600+ admins can file these reports, and many of them are malicious and spoofed. Your suggestion they should only come from the ARBCOM is a good one. Last time an administrator sent an ISP complaint in on me last year, the email was thrown in the trash -- and after they reviewed the article on me and the press issues with the JFK story, they told me they won't ever accept them again from Wikipedia.
There's also the problem with the Asian ISP's -- they could care less and won't respond, esspecially the ones in Taiwan -- I've tried.
Jeff _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Basically, the foundation needs to make these complaints via official channels. There is no use for each admin to bombard them with such complaints. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Absolutely correct. They WILL take a letter from Brad or Fred seriously. No Question of that.
Jeff
On Aug 6, 2006, at 9:02 PM, Jeffrey V. Merkey wrote:
In response to Fred, I doubt you will ever get any of the ISP's on anyone's side but their own.
Actually I am getting cooperation. The technician has suggested a good solution is to put their customer who is behind Tojo on a fixed ip. This solution does not require them to lose a customer. In fact, it is a sort of upgrade.
Fred
Fred Bauder wrote:
On Aug 6, 2006, at 9:02 PM, Jeffrey V. Merkey wrote:
In response to Fred, I doubt you will ever get any of the ISP's on anyone's side but their own.
Actually I am getting cooperation. The technician has suggested a good solution is to put their customer who is behind Tojo on a fixed ip. This solution does not require them to lose a customer. In fact, it is a sort of upgrade.
Fred
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Fred,
I agree that coming from someone reputable like you or Brad will probably work. And getting Toyo in Japan to respond quickly is amazing. They also have a pretty high powered relationship with NTT in Japan, who runs all the phone companies ....
Jeff
Jeffrey V. Merkey wrote:
Fred Bauder wrote:
On Aug 6, 2006, at 9:02 PM, Jeffrey V. Merkey wrote:
In response to Fred, I doubt you will ever get any of the ISP's on anyone's side but their own.
Actually I am getting cooperation. The technician has suggested a good solution is to put their customer who is behind Tojo on a fixed ip. This solution does not require them to lose a customer. In fact, it is a sort of upgrade.
Fred
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Fred,
I agree that coming from someone reputable like you or Brad will probably work. And getting Toyo in Japan to respond quickly is amazing. They also have a pretty high powered relationship with NTT in Japan, who runs all the phone companies ....
Jeff
And I don't know what the heck happened at Wikimania, but I am getting 1720 visitors and 50,000+ hits an hour in Wikigadugi.org which started about noon yesterday and has been increasing at a rate of 6% an hour. Anyone know what happened? I think it's great, but did the site get mention to folks in the press or something? I had to add two more proxy servers this morning before heading up into the Kamas wilderness with the family for the afternoon to handle the caching load.
Jeff
*period* Month Aug 2006 *First visit* NA *Last visit* 06 Aug 2006 - 22:29 Unique visitors Number of visits Pages Hits Bandwidth Viewed traffic* *1329* *1720* (1.29visits/visitor) *7982* (4.64pages/visit) *23214* (13.49hits/visit) *365.03 MB* (217.32KB/visit) Not viewed traffic* *15965* *16007* *138.70 MB*
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