Hey All
We have a new project called Video Wiki https://videowiki.wmflabs.org/en which allows:
1. The easy creation of videos from scripts from Wikipedia and images / short video segments from Commons 2. Scripts can have inline references and the text of the script with references end up in the captions of the video with references. These captions can be turned on and off 3. At the end of the video it automatically adds 1. the license for the text (CC BY SA license) 2. attribution of those who have edited the scripts 3. all the metadata for the references supporting the scripts 4. The final video version on Commons lists the files that the video is derived from 5. Attribution for the images is automatically added at the bottom of each image
Have started a discussion here on Wikipedia and would appreciate peoples thoughts. Will be drafting a formal RfC about the use of such videos eventually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Video_Wiki
WOW! ________________________________ From: Wikimedia-l wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 6:55 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Video Wiki
Hey All
We have a new project called Video Wiki https://videowiki.wmflabs.org/en which allows:
1. The easy creation of videos from scripts from Wikipedia and images / short video segments from Commons 2. Scripts can have inline references and the text of the script with references end up in the captions of the video with references. These captions can be turned on and off 3. At the end of the video it automatically adds 1. the license for the text (CC BY SA license) 2. attribution of those who have edited the scripts 3. all the metadata for the references supporting the scripts 4. The final video version on Commons lists the files that the video is derived from 5. Attribution for the images is automatically added at the bottom of each image
Have started a discussion here on Wikipedia and would appreciate peoples thoughts. Will be drafting a formal RfC about the use of such videos eventually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Video_Wiki
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Brilliant. Long in the making, much needed.
And for branding, the website devoted to this should be called Wikipedia Media...
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 12:55 AM James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Hey All
We have a new project called Video Wiki https://videowiki.wmflabs.org/en which allows:
- The easy creation of videos from scripts from Wikipedia and images /
short video segments from Commons 2. Scripts can have inline references and the text of the script with references end up in the captions of the video with references. These captions can be turned on and off 3. At the end of the video it automatically adds 1. the license for the text (CC BY SA license) 2. attribution of those who have edited the scripts 3. all the metadata for the references supporting the scripts 4. The final video version on Commons lists the files that the video is derived from 5. Attribution for the images is automatically added at the bottom of each image
Have started a discussion here on Wikipedia and would appreciate peoples thoughts. Will be drafting a formal RfC about the use of such videos eventually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Video_Wiki
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Is it possible to add other languages if we have a free TTS system? ________________________________ From: Wikimedia-l wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:10 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Video Wiki
Brilliant. Long in the making, much needed.
And for branding, the website devoted to this should be called Wikipedia Media...
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 12:55 AM James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Hey All
We have a new project called Video Wiki https://videowiki.wmflabs.org/en which allows:
- The easy creation of videos from scripts from Wikipedia and images /
short video segments from Commons 2. Scripts can have inline references and the text of the script with references end up in the captions of the video with references. These captions can be turned on and off 3. At the end of the video it automatically adds 1. the license for the text (CC BY SA license) 2. attribution of those who have edited the scripts 3. all the metadata for the references supporting the scripts 4. The final video version on Commons lists the files that the video is derived from 5. Attribution for the images is automatically added at the bottom of each image
Have started a discussion here on Wikipedia and would appreciate peoples thoughts. Will be drafting a formal RfC about the use of such videos eventually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Video_Wiki
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Wooow, This is Amazing !
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Yes definitely possible for other languages. It currently works in Hindi, Spanish, French, and English.
Here is an example of one in Hindi https://videowiki.wmflabs.org/hi/videowiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4...
James
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 8:47 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder158@hotmail.com> wrote:
Is it possible to add other languages if we have a free TTS system? ________________________________ From: Wikimedia-l wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:10 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Video Wiki
Brilliant. Long in the making, much needed.
And for branding, the website devoted to this should be called Wikipedia Media...
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 12:55 AM James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Hey All
We have a new project called Video Wiki https://videowiki.wmflabs.org/en which allows:
- The easy creation of videos from scripts from Wikipedia and images
/
short video segments from Commons 2. Scripts can have inline references and the text of the script with references end up in the captions of the video with references. These captions can be turned on and off 3. At the end of the video it automatically adds 1. the license for the text (CC BY SA license) 2. attribution of those who have edited the scripts 3. all the metadata for the references supporting the scripts 4. The final video version on Commons lists the files that the video
is
derived from 5. Attribution for the images is automatically added at the bottom of each image
Have started a discussion here on Wikipedia and would appreciate peoples thoughts. Will be drafting a formal RfC about the use of such videos eventually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Video_Wiki
-- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Could these videos be posted to YouTube?
In a recent talk https://vimeo.com/album/5793528, internet researcher danah boyd makes the observation (around minute 15) that one of the problems with conspiracy propagation in YouTube is that nobody generally bothers to produce response videos to counteract disinformation narratives. So people who use YouTube to get their "news" (<-- a HUGE number of younger internet users) are never exposed to the truth around these subjects.
Many of us are aware that last year YouTube tried, somewhat problematically, to link to Wikipedia articles in an attempt to counter disinformation. But it would be even more useful to* insert factual information into the YouTube ecosystem itself*. It seems to me that VideoWiki tool gives our Movement a powerful new tool to counter disinformation in a more timely manner.
Imagine a 4 minute video that pulls from multiple Wikipedia articles and other WM data sources and which is designed to counter, say, a new viral anti-vaxx video in a concise and engaging way. Before VideoWiki, this would have been pretty labor-intensive to create. With VideoWiki, it seems like we're close to being able to develop this kind of content in a much more timely manner.
But to be effective, the video needs to reach the intended audience. The best way to do that is to post it to YouTube, where that audience is. Hence my opening question.
What do people think?
Jonathan
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 5:47 PM James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Yes definitely possible for other languages. It currently works in Hindi, Spanish, French, and English.
Here is an example of one in Hindi
https://videowiki.wmflabs.org/hi/videowiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4...
James
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 8:47 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder158@hotmail.com> wrote:
Is it possible to add other languages if we have a free TTS system? ________________________________ From: Wikimedia-l wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:10 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Video Wiki
Brilliant. Long in the making, much needed.
And for branding, the website devoted to this should be called Wikipedia Media...
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 12:55 AM James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Hey All
We have a new project called Video Wiki https://videowiki.wmflabs.org/en which allows:
- The easy creation of videos from scripts from Wikipedia and
images
/
short video segments from Commons 2. Scripts can have inline references and the text of the script
with
references end up in the captions of the video with references.
These
captions can be turned on and off 3. At the end of the video it automatically adds 1. the license for the text (CC BY SA license) 2. attribution of those who have edited the scripts 3. all the metadata for the references supporting the scripts 4. The final video version on Commons lists the files that the video
is
derived from 5. Attribution for the images is automatically added at the bottom
of
each image
Have started a discussion here on Wikipedia and would appreciate
peoples
thoughts. Will be drafting a formal RfC about the use of such videos eventually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Video_Wiki
-- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Yes excellent idea. For everyone who is interested in the concept of wiki based collaboratively built video add your name on meta https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Video#Interest
Still a fair bit of technical work to do. We want to create a work flow were the text script and instructions for when images appear within a video all exists within Wikimedia markup on Wikipedia.
Hopefully that work flow will be ready in a few months (maybe by Wikimania...) We also want to get built a tool for commons that can trim and cut video similar to how we have a tool that can crop images.
James
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 1:22 PM Jonathan Morgan jmorgan@wikimedia.org wrote:
Could these videos be posted to YouTube?
In a recent talk https://vimeo.com/album/5793528, internet researcher danah boyd makes the observation (around minute 15) that one of the problems with conspiracy propagation in YouTube is that nobody generally bothers to produce response videos to counteract disinformation narratives. So people who use YouTube to get their "news" (<-- a HUGE number of younger internet users) are never exposed to the truth around these subjects.
Many of us are aware that last year YouTube tried, somewhat problematically, to link to Wikipedia articles in an attempt to counter disinformation. But it would be even more useful to* insert factual information into the YouTube ecosystem itself*. It seems to me that VideoWiki tool gives our Movement a powerful new tool to counter disinformation in a more timely manner.
Imagine a 4 minute video that pulls from multiple Wikipedia articles and other WM data sources and which is designed to counter, say, a new viral anti-vaxx video in a concise and engaging way. Before VideoWiki, this would have been pretty labor-intensive to create. With VideoWiki, it seems like we're close to being able to develop this kind of content in a much more timely manner.
But to be effective, the video needs to reach the intended audience. The best way to do that is to post it to YouTube, where that audience is. Hence my opening question.
What do people think?
Jonathan
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 5:47 PM James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Yes definitely possible for other languages. It currently works in Hindi, Spanish, French, and English.
Here is an example of one in Hindi
https://videowiki.wmflabs.org/hi/videowiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4...
James
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 8:47 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder158@hotmail.com> wrote:
Is it possible to add other languages if we have a free TTS system? ________________________________ From: Wikimedia-l wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf
of
Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:10 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Video Wiki
Brilliant. Long in the making, much needed.
And for branding, the website devoted to this should be called
Wikipedia
Media...
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 12:55 AM James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com
wrote:
Hey All
We have a new project called Video Wiki https://videowiki.wmflabs.org/en which allows:
- The easy creation of videos from scripts from Wikipedia and
images
/
short video segments from Commons 2. Scripts can have inline references and the text of the script
with
references end up in the captions of the video with references.
These
captions can be turned on and off 3. At the end of the video it automatically adds 1. the license for the text (CC BY SA license) 2. attribution of those who have edited the scripts 3. all the metadata for the references supporting the scripts 4. The final video version on Commons lists the files that the
video
is
derived from 5. Attribution for the images is automatically added at the bottom
of
each image
Have started a discussion here on Wikipedia and would appreciate
peoples
thoughts. Will be drafting a formal RfC about the use of such videos eventually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Video_Wiki
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That's pretty cool! I'll add some more notes on the wiki page later.
-- brion
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019, 9:55 PM James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Hey All
We have a new project called Video Wiki https://videowiki.wmflabs.org/en which allows:
- The easy creation of videos from scripts from Wikipedia and images /
short video segments from Commons 2. Scripts can have inline references and the text of the script with references end up in the captions of the video with references. These captions can be turned on and off 3. At the end of the video it automatically adds 1. the license for the text (CC BY SA license) 2. attribution of those who have edited the scripts 3. all the metadata for the references supporting the scripts 4. The final video version on Commons lists the files that the video is derived from 5. Attribution for the images is automatically added at the bottom of each image
Have started a discussion here on Wikipedia and would appreciate peoples thoughts. Will be drafting a formal RfC about the use of such videos eventually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Video_Wiki
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Awesome work!
On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 16:20, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org wrote:
That's pretty cool! I'll add some more notes on the wiki page later.
-- brion
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019, 9:55 PM James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Hey All
We have a new project called Video Wiki https://videowiki.wmflabs.org/en which allows:
- The easy creation of videos from scripts from Wikipedia and images
/
short video segments from Commons 2. Scripts can have inline references and the text of the script with references end up in the captions of the video with references. These captions can be turned on and off 3. At the end of the video it automatically adds 1. the license for the text (CC BY SA license) 2. attribution of those who have edited the scripts 3. all the metadata for the references supporting the scripts 4. The final video version on Commons lists the files that the video
is
derived from 5. Attribution for the images is automatically added at the bottom of each image
Have started a discussion here on Wikipedia and would appreciate peoples thoughts. Will be drafting a formal RfC about the use of such videos eventually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Video_Wiki
-- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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