Hello everyone, I am Littlebtc, a member of Wikimania 2007 planning team.
When we talk to sponsors about web streaming sponsorship, they want to know how many people will use web streaming to watch the conference so that they can help us.
So we'd like to know the amount of web streaming listener, or bandwidth of the streaming website during Wikimania 2006.
Hi Littlebtc,
We don't have good numbers for this, unfortunately. I also don't think they would be very telling, as streaming was not widely promoted either of the past two years. The right answer will depend largely on how many people know it is available.
Perhaps you can do a poll of people who expect they would use it; I would guess that at least 200 streams would be used if available and well-promoted. If you make remote participation a core element of the conference, you could attract more interest than that.
--SJ
On 11/21/06, 小犬 sst.dreams@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone, I am Littlebtc, a member of Wikimania 2007 planning team.
When we talk to sponsors about web streaming sponsorship, they want to know how many people will use web streaming to watch the conference so that they can help us.
So we'd like to know the amount of web streaming listener, or bandwidth of the streaming website during Wikimania 2006. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
I very highly doubt I'd be attending this Wikimania, personally (too big a trip for me), but for what it's worth, I imagine remote participation and community awareness of the availability would be the deciding factors, as SJ said. It might be interesting to set up IRC channel(s) to run along with the various lectures; with that done, questions could be submitted both by those attending the sessions, and by those all over the world.
Barring remote participation of some sort, I doubt I'm the only person who's more inclined to download whatever's available at some later date, and listen to them all at my own leisure.
-Luna
On 11/21/06, SJ 2.718281828@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Littlebtc,
We don't have good numbers for this, unfortunately. I also don't think they would be very telling, as streaming was not widely promoted either of the past two years. The right answer will depend largely on how many people know it is available.
Perhaps you can do a poll of people who expect they would use it; I would guess that at least 200 streams would be used if available and well-promoted. If you make remote participation a core element of the conference, you could attract more interest than that.
--SJ
On 11/21/06, 小犬 sst.dreams@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone, I am Littlebtc, a member of Wikimania 2007 planning
team.
When we talk to sponsors about web streaming sponsorship, they want to know how many people will use web streaming to watch the conference so that they can help us.
So we'd like to know the amount of web streaming listener, or bandwidth of the streaming website during Wikimania 2006. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
-- ++SJ _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
小犬 schreef:
Hello everyone, I am Littlebtc, a member of Wikimania 2007 planning team.
When we talk to sponsors about web streaming sponsorship, they want to know how many people will use web streaming to watch the conference so that they can help us.
So we'd like to know the amount of web streaming listener, or bandwidth of the streaming website during Wikimania 2006.
I was watching it when it worked.
Regarding the streams I would focus not on the live streams but trying to get fast after every event the recoding of it online.
For Wikimanina 2006 it was announced several times that there where recordings made and that the where coming online soon.
At this time these recordings are still not listed on the Wikimania 2006 archive page. What exist is made by people in the audience or recordings made from the live stream.
I recommend; - try to get the recordings online between 15 and 60 minutes after every event online. That is really not difficult. - give priority on the audio recording above the video recording - providing a stable distribution channel for the media. Consider bittorrent
For the live stream; - provide also an audio stream of it - broadcast it also with peercast http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peercast - The not announced use of RealMedia for the live stream for Wikimania2006 was very inconvenient. I understand that if the streaming service is offered for free by someone it will be in the format the are useing. But if the use a non WMF recommended file format it must be know in time by the interested people so the can try to get support for it on there computer. Also publish a sample file if that is the case so that you can test if of playback works.
On 11/26/06, Walter Vermeir walter@wikipedia.be wrote:
I recommend;
- try to get the recordings online between 15 and 60 minutes after every
event online. That is really not difficult.
- give priority on the audio recording above the video recording
- providing a stable distribution channel for the media. Consider bittorrent
I watched a few recordings of the 2006 Wikimania, and the problem for me was mostly that you' either see the speaker OK but not the slide, or (almost) read the slide but only when the speaker was out of the camera's range.
I'd suggest recording the speaker in both audio and video, while also grabbing and recording the VGA signal of the presentation. Both videos should then be merged into one (maybe side-by-side, making it wide-screen;-)
While this should not be hard to do, it could prove difficult to do it on the Wikimania itself. I'f I can't visit in 2007, I'd much prefer such good quality recording a few days after the event than crappy live-streams.
My 2 cents, Magnus
On 26/11/06, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
On 11/26/06, Walter Vermeir walter@wikipedia.be wrote:
I recommend;
- try to get the recordings online between 15 and 60 minutes after every
event online. That is really not difficult.
- give priority on the audio recording above the video recording
- providing a stable distribution channel for the media. Consider bittorrent
I watched a few recordings of the 2006 Wikimania, and the problem for me was mostly that you' either see the speaker OK but not the slide, or (almost) read the slide but only when the speaker was out of the camera's range.
I'd suggest recording the speaker in both audio and video, while also grabbing and recording the VGA signal of the presentation. Both videos should then be merged into one (maybe side-by-side, making it wide-screen;-)
While this should not be hard to do, it could prove difficult to do it on the Wikimania itself. I'f I can't visit in 2007, I'd much prefer such good quality recording a few days after the event than crappy live-streams.
Fermilab do weekly colloquia for their staff, which are videoed and archived on the web; some of these are quite interesting and I've sat through a couple. Their web presentation is interesting and effective; the video is put in a sidebar in the browser, so you can see the speaker talking and gesturing, whilst the main "real estate" is taken up by an HTMLed version of the presentation slides, which are progressed along roughly in sync with the talk.
http://vmsstreamer1.fnal.gov/VMS_Site_02/Lectures/Colloquium/Lesk/vf001.htm is Michael Lesk's talk on digitising everything, to pick an appropriate example. Unfortunately, their implementation requires RealPlayer, but there's no cast-iron requirement for that...
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