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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Cathy Ma cathyma@gmail.com Date: Oct 21, 2005 6:24 PM Subject: Wikipedia banned in China, news from Taiwan (translated) To: Andrew Lih alih@hku.hk, Ying Chan yychan@hku.hk, Lokman Tsui lokman.tsui@gmail.com, Andrea Leung andrea.leung@gmail.com, "isaac.mao" isaac.mao@gmail.com, zhengxiaoyun@gmail.com, Kenneth Farrall kfarrall@asc.upenn.edu, Titan Deng theodoranian@gmail.com
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No conclusive rationals were drawn for this move, but it was believed to be an order issued by the National Security Unit of the government. Users from both Mainland and China worried that if this website is banned for good, it would be the biggest crisis for 'Chinese knowledge accumulation'.
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Internet users originally thought that this was only a partial suspension, however after investigations by various users, it was found that most provinces in China could no longer access to Wikipedia since the 19th.
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Mainland users thought that it was again the 'masterpiece/great work' by the Central information Networt (CERNET?), however further verification with the ISP revealed that it was the National security unit who made the order. Some mainland users described the unit as 'Secret agency from the "eastern unit" (note: used to be the unit in imperial China Great Palace of which only castrated men worked there'
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This was the third time Wikipedia got banned in China. Last year it was right before the 15th aniversary of the June fourth incident when the CERNET banned the site without any forewarning. It lasted for 3 weeks, not until the appeal 'If you do not open this website, information on this encyclopedia would gravitate more toward pro-Taiwan stance' by the Wikipedian crew that site got reopen again.
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Last September the bigger BBS in China SMTH was banned when students discussed about social movements and reform. After that these students migrated to Wikipedia and BBS to continue their discussion and caused Chinese Wikipedia suspended for 3 days.
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: shi zhao shizhao@gmail.com Date: Oct 21, 2005 10:20 PM Subject: [Wikizh-l] Re: Wikipedia banned in China, news from Taiwan (translated) To: Zheng Xiaoyun zhengxiaoyun@gmail.com Cc: wikizh-l@wikipedia.org
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Cathy Ma cathyma@gmail.com Date: Oct 21, 2005 6:24 PM Subject: Wikipedia banned in China, news from Taiwan (translated) To: Andrew Lih alih@hku.hk, Ying Chan yychan@hku.hk, Lokman Tsui lokman.tsui@gmail.com, Andrea Leung andrea.leung@gmail.com, "isaac.mao" isaac.mao@gmail.com, zhengxiaoyun@gmail.com, Kenneth Farrall kfarrall@asc.upenn.edu, Titan Deng theodoranian@gmail.com
Thanks Titan for the source:
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Wikipedia was banned without forewarnning on the 19th and shocked internet users.
With the control over information that the Chinese government has, it doesn't really surprise me or shock me in the least. The shocking thing was that they premitted as much as they did. In some ways, having the communist government ban Wikipedia may be the best thing that could have happened. It will get international attention to the project, particularly when the international press realizes that Wikipedia is even in Chinese and many other languages as well. It will also stop the cautious attitude that editors on the Chinese Wikipedia have had so far to try and avoid pissing off the Chinese government, strongly affecting POV issues. The only worry I would see now is that the zh.wikipedia doesn't go too far the other way in becoming a forum for Chinese dissidents.
Robert Scott Horning wrote:
With the control over information that the Chinese government has, it doesn't really surprise me or shock me in the least. The shocking thing was that they premitted as much as they did. In some ways, having the communist government ban Wikipedia may be the best thing that could have happened. It will get international attention to the project, particularly when the international press realizes that Wikipedia is even in Chinese and many other languages as well. It will also stop the cautious attitude that editors on the Chinese Wikipedia have had so far to try and avoid pissing off the Chinese government, strongly affecting POV issues. The only worry I would see now is that the zh.wikipedia doesn't go too far the other way in becoming a forum for Chinese dissidents.
In case you haven't noticed, Wikipedia has been blocked and unblocked in China several times already, and I'm sure will be several times in the future.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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