I also agree that a resolution is needed. Two individuals don't speak for the whole board and I'm not willing to take your word on it. Up until now the community has had the say over which projects were closed through the proposals for closing projects and you throw out the statement that there's a new "policy" that's "official" with nothing to back it up. Further it's supposedly the language committee which should have the say when most of the proposals for closure are due to inactivity and have nothing to do with the language itself.
I never saw any requests for comment from the community either before you decided to pull the rug out from under us. The situation is ridiculous.
From: Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:04:50 +0200 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Closing projects policy now official On 06/25/2011 12:54 PM, Béria Lima wrote:
So we should wait for a resolution no? Until there is only your word.
PS: I'm not saying you are lying or anything, but that the final decision about that requires a Resolution.
I don't think that it is needed because Board has the final word anyway, as well as Language proposal policy has never officially approved as-is, but through the general recognition of Language committee.
On 06/25/2011 04:32 PM, Aaron Adrignola wrote:
I also agree that a resolution is needed. Two individuals don't speak for the whole board and I'm not willing to take your word on it. Up until now the community has had the say over which projects were closed through the proposals for closing projects and you throw out the statement that there's a new "policy" that's "official" with nothing to back it up. Further it's supposedly the language committee which should have the say when most of the proposals for closure are due to inactivity and have nothing to do with the language itself.
I never saw any requests for comment from the community either before you decided to pull the rug out from under us. The situation is ridiculous.
I am fine with it, including not getting that permission. I will move the page to the previous state and ask Board to make resolution. If Board doesn't want to do that, nothing will be changed.
I had put a notice on [[meta:Wikimedia Forum]] and a notice on the [[Proposals for closing projects]] page. Several users supported the policy proposal, and some gave feedback so we could improve the text. Apart from the meeting report, I think we didn't send a separate e-mail to foundation-l about this, which we perhaps should have done.
My proposal included the language committee as decision body because I find it logical that who is in charge of opening projects should be in charge of closing them as well. When the community proposes a policy themselves, it can replace this policy. The situation until now, without any policy, was ridiculous.
(I'd like to make clear that no-one is really bothered with inactive projects (it's just inactive, there's almost no spam or anything), except those who volunteer to import the content of closed projects to the Incubator, which I and several others do. It's easy to just close a project and say that the content needs to be transferred.)
2011/6/25 Aaron Adrignola aaron.adrignola@gmail.com
I also agree that a resolution is needed. Two individuals don't speak for the whole board and I'm not willing to take your word on it. Up until now the community has had the say over which projects were closed through the proposals for closing projects and you throw out the statement that there's a new "policy" that's "official" with nothing to back it up. Further it's supposedly the language committee which should have the say when most of the proposals for closure are due to inactivity and have nothing to do with the language itself.
I never saw any requests for comment from the community either before you decided to pull the rug out from under us. The situation is ridiculous.
From: Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:04:50 +0200 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Closing projects policy now official On 06/25/2011 12:54 PM, Béria Lima wrote:
So we should wait for a resolution no? Until there is only your word.
PS: I'm not saying you are lying or anything, but that the final
decision
about that requires a Resolution.
I don't think that it is needed because Board has the final word anyway, as well as Language proposal policy has never officially approved as-is, but through the general recognition of Language committee.
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