(off-topic for Wikimedia, on-topic for access to knowledge in general)
The below news is sad, but not unusual, and increasingly common as government budgets shrink. The NBII was a multi-year effort to collect, curate and make accessible sources of biological data, especially about the US. The site is archived here, among other places; I don't know what happened to the data files that were hosted. http://wayback.archive-it.org/2361/20120105233212/http://www.nbii.gov/portal...
Mostly, I think this is a reminder that what we do vis a vis advocating for free licenses, reusable data, distributed curation etc. is *important*. It's a safeguard against failure that's hard to imagine in the short-term but almost inevitable in the long-term (though in the world of knowledge projects, Wikimedia may -- ironically and surprisingly enough! -- end up being one of the most resilient long-term platforms).
-- phoebe
----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Frederick Stoss" fstoss@buffalo.edu ....
Please pass this on to other library associations and their appropriate science and environmental units, especially SLA.
You may recall the modest clamor late last year with the shuttering of the Website of the National Biological Information Infrastructure (NBII) within the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), which was terminated on October 1, 2011, as a result of a Federal budget cut and re-organization within the USGS. The final elimination of the NBII Website takes place at the end of this month. Here is the official wording about the termination of this once important and richly populated data resource on the flora and fauna of the United States, and detailed inventories of resources, services, publications and tools related to biodiversity, ecology and related aspects of the US biomes:
“In the President's budget for Fiscal Year 2012, the National Biological Information Infrastructure (NBII), a program under the U.S. Geological Survey’s Biological Information Management and Delivery Program, was terminated. As a result, the funding that facilitated the NBII Node partnerships, as well as the development and maintenance of databases, applications and systems, is no longer available. On January 15, 2012, all NBII websites/applications with an *.nbii.gov URL were removed from the internet.
“This website currently provides the latest information on communications with partners, the disposition status of NBII Web sites, data and applications, and general FAQs related to the NBII Program’s termination. The NBII Program close-out will be complete on September 30, 2012, and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on that date. The termination information provided here will be made available on the USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
Note those last two sentences:
“ The NBII Program close-out will be complete on September 30, 2012, and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on that date. The termination information provided here will be made available on the USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
Query - would making this on-topic for the Foundation be appropriate?
I.e., is the Foundation perhaps hosting and curating these apps and data a reasonable project for us to take on? Even if it took some time to return some of the apps to usable, bringing over the data sets and software to an archival location and offering to host turning it back on again if the prior researchers or another subject matter expert stepped up to help with that seems possible.
-george william herbert george.herbert@gmail.com
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
(off-topic for Wikimedia, on-topic for access to knowledge in general)
The below news is sad, but not unusual, and increasingly common as government budgets shrink. The NBII was a multi-year effort to collect, curate and make accessible sources of biological data, especially about the US. The site is archived here, among other places; I don't know what happened to the data files that were hosted. http://wayback.archive-it.org/2361/20120105233212/http://www.nbii.gov/portal...
Mostly, I think this is a reminder that what we do vis a vis advocating for free licenses, reusable data, distributed curation etc. is *important*. It's a safeguard against failure that's hard to imagine in the short-term but almost inevitable in the long-term (though in the world of knowledge projects, Wikimedia may -- ironically and surprisingly enough! -- end up being one of the most resilient long-term platforms).
-- phoebe
----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Frederick Stoss" fstoss@buffalo.edu ....
Please pass this on to other library associations and their appropriate science and environmental units, especially SLA.
You may recall the modest clamor late last year with the shuttering of the Website of the National Biological Information Infrastructure (NBII) within the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), which was terminated on October 1, 2011, as a result of a Federal budget cut and re-organization within the USGS. The final elimination of the NBII Website takes place at the end of this month. Here is the official wording about the termination of this once important and richly populated data resource on the flora and fauna of the United States, and detailed inventories of resources, services, publications and tools related to biodiversity, ecology and related aspects of the US biomes:
“In the President's budget for Fiscal Year 2012, the National Biological Information Infrastructure (NBII), a program under the U.S. Geological Survey’s Biological Information Management and Delivery Program, was terminated. As a result, the funding that facilitated the NBII Node partnerships, as well as the development and maintenance of databases, applications and systems, is no longer available. On January 15, 2012, all NBII websites/applications with an *.nbii.gov URL were removed from the internet.
“This website currently provides the latest information on communications with partners, the disposition status of NBII Web sites, data and applications, and general FAQs related to the NBII Program’s termination. The NBII Program close-out will be complete on September 30, 2012, and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on that date. The termination information provided here will be made available on the USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
Note those last two sentences:
“ The NBII Program close-out will be complete on September 30, 2012, and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on that date. The termination information provided here will be made available on the USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
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That is certainly appropriate. We should consider how we could help. Could someone with government contacts find out what that would entail and what their primary maintenance expenses were? On Sep 20, 2012 4:24 PM, "George Herbert" george.herbert@gmail.com wrote:
Query - would making this on-topic for the Foundation be appropriate?
I.e., is the Foundation perhaps hosting and curating these apps and data a reasonable project for us to take on? Even if it took some time to return some of the apps to usable, bringing over the data sets and software to an archival location and offering to host turning it back on again if the prior researchers or another subject matter expert stepped up to help with that seems possible.
-george william herbert george.herbert@gmail.com
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
(off-topic for Wikimedia, on-topic for access to knowledge in general)
The below news is sad, but not unusual, and increasingly common as government budgets shrink. The NBII was a multi-year effort to collect, curate and make accessible sources of biological data, especially about the US. The site is archived here, among other places; I don't know what happened to the data files that were hosted.
http://wayback.archive-it.org/2361/20120105233212/http://www.nbii.gov/portal...
Mostly, I think this is a reminder that what we do vis a vis advocating for free licenses, reusable data, distributed curation etc. is *important*. It's a safeguard against failure that's hard to imagine in the short-term but almost inevitable in the long-term (though in the world of knowledge projects, Wikimedia may -- ironically and surprisingly enough! -- end up being one of the most resilient long-term platforms).
-- phoebe
----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Frederick Stoss" fstoss@buffalo.edu ....
Please pass this on to other library associations and their appropriate science and environmental units, especially SLA.
You may recall the modest clamor late last year with the shuttering of the Website of the National Biological Information Infrastructure (NBII) within the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), which was terminated on October 1, 2011, as a result of a Federal budget cut and re-organization within the USGS. The final elimination of the NBII Website takes place at the end of this month. Here is the official wording about the termination of this once important and richly populated data resource on the flora and fauna of the United States, and detailed inventories of resources, services, publications and tools related to biodiversity, ecology and related aspects of the US biomes:
“In the President's budget for Fiscal Year 2012, the National Biological Information Infrastructure (NBII), a program under the U.S. Geological Survey’s Biological Information Management and Delivery Program, was terminated. As a result, the funding that facilitated the NBII Node partnerships, as well as the development and maintenance of databases, applications and systems, is no longer available. On January 15, 2012, all NBII websites/applications with an *.nbii.gov URL were removed from the internet.
“This website currently provides the latest information on communications with partners, the disposition status of NBII Web sites, data and applications, and general FAQs related to the NBII Program’s termination. The NBII Program close-out will be complete on September 30, 2012, and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on that date. The termination information provided here will be made available on the USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
Note those last two sentences:
“ The NBII Program close-out will be complete on September 30, 2012, and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on that date. The termination information provided here will be made available on the USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
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At this late date, collaborating with/supporting the Archive (who's already picked up a lot of it) or similar would probably be the most efficient solution. If it wasn't clear below, a lot of this particular project involved pointing out towards other sources hosted elsewhere, (which may or may not still be online) as well as hosting some data locally; not sure how we'd help preserve that curation value.
-- phoebe
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
That is certainly appropriate. We should consider how we could help. Could someone with government contacts find out what that would entail and what their primary maintenance expenses were? On Sep 20, 2012 4:24 PM, "George Herbert" george.herbert@gmail.com wrote:
Query - would making this on-topic for the Foundation be appropriate?
I.e., is the Foundation perhaps hosting and curating these apps and data a reasonable project for us to take on? Even if it took some time to return some of the apps to usable, bringing over the data sets and software to an archival location and offering to host turning it back on again if the prior researchers or another subject matter expert stepped up to help with that seems possible.
-george william herbert george.herbert@gmail.com
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
(off-topic for Wikimedia, on-topic for access to knowledge in general)
The below news is sad, but not unusual, and increasingly common as government budgets shrink. The NBII was a multi-year effort to collect, curate and make accessible sources of biological data, especially about the US. The site is archived here, among other places; I don't know what happened to the data files that were hosted.
http://wayback.archive-it.org/2361/20120105233212/http://www.nbii.gov/portal...
Mostly, I think this is a reminder that what we do vis a vis advocating for free licenses, reusable data, distributed curation etc. is *important*. It's a safeguard against failure that's hard to imagine in the short-term but almost inevitable in the long-term (though in the world of knowledge projects, Wikimedia may -- ironically and surprisingly enough! -- end up being one of the most resilient long-term platforms).
-- phoebe
----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Frederick Stoss" fstoss@buffalo.edu ....
Please pass this on to other library associations and their appropriate science and environmental units, especially SLA.
You may recall the modest clamor late last year with the shuttering of the Website of the National Biological Information Infrastructure (NBII) within the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), which was terminated on October 1, 2011, as a result of a Federal budget cut and re-organization within the USGS. The final elimination of the NBII Website takes place at the end of this month. Here is the official wording about the termination of this once important and richly populated data resource on the flora and fauna of the United States, and detailed inventories of resources, services, publications and tools related to biodiversity, ecology and related aspects of the US biomes:
“In the President's budget for Fiscal Year 2012, the National Biological Information Infrastructure (NBII), a program under the U.S. Geological Survey’s Biological Information Management and Delivery Program, was terminated. As a result, the funding that facilitated the NBII Node partnerships, as well as the development and maintenance of databases, applications and systems, is no longer available. On January 15, 2012, all NBII websites/applications with an *.nbii.gov URL were removed from the internet.
“This website currently provides the latest information on communications with partners, the disposition status of NBII Web sites, data and applications, and general FAQs related to the NBII Program’s termination. The NBII Program close-out will be complete on September 30, 2012, and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on that date. The termination information provided here will be made available on the USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
Note those last two sentences:
“ The NBII Program close-out will be complete on September 30, 2012, and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on that date. The termination information provided here will be made available on the USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
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Where there is a chunk of primary source material or data, I'd like to see Wikisource become the editable frontend to the description pages that the Archive uses to describe the data they are archiving. We know how to do that, categorize it, add context and internal links, and help people translate it.
You say things like "I don't know what happened to the data files that were hosted." That's the sort of information that one would find out in writing the lede of such a description page.
SJ
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:26 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
At this late date, collaborating with/supporting the Archive (who's already picked up a lot of it) or similar would probably be the most efficient solution. If it wasn't clear below, a lot of this particular project involved pointing out towards other sources hosted elsewhere, (which may or may not still be online) as well as hosting some data locally; not sure how we'd help preserve that curation value.
-- phoebe
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
That is certainly appropriate. We should consider how we could help.
Could
someone with government contacts find out what that would entail and what their primary maintenance expenses were? On Sep 20, 2012 4:24 PM, "George Herbert" george.herbert@gmail.com
wrote:
Query - would making this on-topic for the Foundation be appropriate?
I.e., is the Foundation perhaps hosting and curating these apps and data a reasonable project for us to take on? Even if it took some time to return some of the apps to usable, bringing over the data sets and software to an archival location and offering to host turning it back on again if the prior researchers or another subject matter expert stepped up to help with that seems possible.
-george william herbert george.herbert@gmail.com
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
(off-topic for Wikimedia, on-topic for access to knowledge in general)
The below news is sad, but not unusual, and increasingly common as government budgets shrink. The NBII was a multi-year effort to collect, curate and make accessible sources of biological data, especially about the US. The site is archived here, among other places; I don't know what happened to the data files that were hosted.
http://wayback.archive-it.org/2361/20120105233212/http://www.nbii.gov/portal...
Mostly, I think this is a reminder that what we do vis a vis advocating for free licenses, reusable data, distributed curation etc. is *important*. It's a safeguard against failure that's hard to imagine in the short-term but almost inevitable in the long-term (though in the world of knowledge projects, Wikimedia may -- ironically and surprisingly enough! -- end up being one of the most resilient long-term platforms).
-- phoebe
----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Frederick Stoss" fstoss@buffalo.edu ....
Please pass this on to other library associations and their appropriate science and environmental units, especially SLA.
You may recall the modest clamor late last year with the shuttering of the Website of the National Biological Information Infrastructure (NBII) within the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), which was terminated on October 1, 2011, as a result of a Federal budget cut and re-organization within the USGS. The final elimination of the NBII Website takes place at the end of this month. Here is the official wording about the termination of this once important and richly populated data resource on the flora and fauna of the United States, and detailed inventories of resources, services, publications and tools related to biodiversity, ecology and related aspects of the US biomes:
“In the President's budget for Fiscal Year 2012, the National Biological Information Infrastructure (NBII), a program under the U.S. Geological Survey’s Biological Information Management and Delivery Program, was terminated. As a result, the funding that facilitated the NBII Node partnerships, as well as the development and maintenance of databases, applications and systems, is no longer available. On January 15, 2012, all NBII websites/applications with an *.nbii.gov URL were removed from the internet.
“This website currently provides the latest information on communications with partners, the disposition status of NBII Web sites, data and applications, and general FAQs related to the NBII Program’s termination. The NBII Program close-out will be complete on September 30, 2012, and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on that date. The termination information provided here will be made available on the USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
Note those last two sentences:
“ The NBII Program close-out will be complete on September 30, 2012, and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on that date. The termination information provided here will be made available on the USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
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