Thank you for the answers.
Well, the decision was taken after almost three months of discutions, followed by a regular voting poll (the same used to choose official policies).
The option that requires a 45-day-old account to move page was clearly the will of majority.
If the decision is way to restrictive according to the Foundation, we'll have to choose the best option available.
Well, that's it. Thank you in advance Dantadd
************************************************************ In my opinion, but of course i can not speak in any way for the foundation, this is not an issue that is up to the foundation. The local community knows best what they need, and I guess that if they find a developer that wants to implement this, they can just ask him (her) to do it. I see no need to discuss it all over here :-) It would perhaps be something different if you prohibit editing for unregistered users etc maybe :-)
Lodewijk
2007/2/18, Titoxd op Wikimedia <titoxd.wikimedia op gmail.com>:
No, it only requires some alterations of the site configuration file. Nothing major, actually. The main issue here is if it is acceptable to the Foundation.
Titoxd.
-----Original Message----- From: foundation-l-bounces op lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces op lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Casey Brown Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 2:58 PM To: 'Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Restriction on page moves inpt.wikipedia.orgThankyou
Hi Daniel, one question: Was this conclusion reached from a "straw poll" or discussion? Otherwise, it seems good, but it would probably involve a site-wide semi-protection against moves and upping the "new account cut-off" to 45-days.
-----Original Message----- From: foundation-l-bounces op lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces op lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Nix Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 4:25 PM To: foundation-l op lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Foundation-l] Restriction on page moves in pt.wikipedia.orgThankyou
Hi everybody,
In a recent poll on pt.wikipedia it was decided to restrict move pages to users with at least a 45-day-old registered account, the same minimum period to grant right to vote (but without the request of 100 valid editions).
I made a request on http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9024 and it was suggested to consult the Foundation because the decision seems to be very restrictive.
Well, the community decision was:
First question (pro or con): *52 pro restriction *11 contro restriction
Second (time restriction): *15 votes - 5 days *8 votes - 15 days *38 votes - 45 days
So, I'd like to know what you think about it and what could be done after this decision.
Thank you, Dantadd http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio_Discuss%C3%A3o:Dantadd
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Do you mind providing links to the discussions that took place? That can help us understand the arguments a bit more, even though I do not think this is controversial.
Titoxd.
-----Original Message----- From: foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Nix Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 4:59 PM To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Foundation-l] Restriction on page moves inpt.wikipedia.org
Thank you for the answers.
Well, the decision was taken after almost three months of discutions, followed by a regular voting poll (the same used to choose official policies).
The option that requires a 45-day-old account to move page was clearly the will of majority.
If the decision is way to restrictive according to the Foundation, we'll have to choose the best option available.
Well, that's it. Thank you in advance Dantadd
************************************************************ In my opinion, but of course i can not speak in any way for the foundation, this is not an issue that is up to the foundation. The local community knows best what they need, and I guess that if they find a developer that wants to implement this, they can just ask him (her) to do it. I see no need to discuss it all over here :-) It would perhaps be something different if you prohibit editing for unregistered users etc maybe :-)
Lodewijk
2007/2/18, Titoxd op Wikimedia <titoxd.wikimedia op gmail.com>:
No, it only requires some alterations of the site configuration file. Nothing major, actually. The main issue here is if it is acceptable to the Foundation.
Titoxd.
-----Original Message----- From: foundation-l-bounces op lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces op lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Casey
Brown
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 2:58 PM To: 'Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Restriction on page moves inpt.wikipedia.orgThankyou
Hi Daniel, one question: Was this conclusion reached from a "straw poll" or discussion? Otherwise, it seems good, but it would probably involve a site-wide semi-protection against moves and upping the "new account cut-off" to 45-days.
-----Original Message----- From: foundation-l-bounces op lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces op lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
Nix
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 4:25 PM To: foundation-l op lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Foundation-l] Restriction on page moves in pt.wikipedia.orgThankyou
Hi everybody,
In a recent poll on pt.wikipedia it was decided to restrict move pages to users with at least a 45-day-old registered account, the same minimum period to grant right to vote (but without the request of 100 valid editions).
I made a request on http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9024 and it was suggested to consult the Foundation because the decision seems to be very restrictive.
Well, the community decision was:
First question (pro or con): *52 pro restriction *11 contro restriction
Second (time restriction): *15 votes - 5 days *8 votes - 15 days *38 votes - 45 days
So, I'd like to know what you think about it and what could be done after this decision.
Thank you, Dantadd http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio_Discuss%C3%A3o:Dantadd
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On 2/18/07, Titoxd@Wikimedia titoxd.wikimedia@gmail.com wrote:
Do you mind providing links to the discussions that took place? That can help us understand the arguments a bit more, even though I do not think this is controversial.
Titoxd.
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vota%C3%A7%C3%B5es/Restri%C3%A7%C3%B5...
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Discuss%C3%A3o:Vota%C3%A7%C3%B5es/Res...
Daniel Nix wrote:
Well, the decision was taken after almost three months of discutions, followed by a regular voting poll (the same used to choose official policies).
The option that requires a 45-day-old account to move page was clearly the will of majority.
If the decision is way to restrictive according to the Foundation, we'll have to choose the best option available.
Well, that's it. Thank you in advance Dantadd
I personally think that 45 days is too long, but then I don't edit on pt:wp. So I'm not affected. Seeking divine intervention from the outside is dangerous because you can too easily become dependent on such a process. For the most part projects need to sort out their own problems; that's the price of autonomy.
Ec
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