As decided last august, we set up an advisory group according to resolution http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Advisory_board
You'll find the entire list here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Advisory_Board
Welcome to
Angela Beesley (eh !) Ward Cunningham Heather Ford Melissa Hagemann Danny Hillis Mitch Kapor Joris Komen Rebecca MacKinnon Wayne Mackintosh Benjamin Mako Hill Erin McKean Trevor Nielson Achal Prabhala Jay Rosen Clay Shirky Peter Suber Raoul Weiler Ethan Zuckerman
who have agreed to give a bit of their time and expertise, to help us navigate in the difficult waters of collaborative software, free licensing, free speech, education for all, governance, sustainability models... We really appreciate.
How did we chose these people ? Either because they were already frequently in touch with us, or because we thought their experience could help. "We" is both the board and the community, as the board also contacted some of the people whose names showed up when I asked help on this list. Is that list closed ? Of course not. Please feel free to discuss further additions that could be necessary in the future.
Florence Devouard
On 28/01/07, Florence Devouard anthere@anthere.org wrote:
As decided last august, we set up an advisory group according to resolution http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Advisory_board You'll find the entire list here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Advisory_Board
Excellent selections!
What sort of thing would we bug them with, through what channel?
I'm wondering on the issue of setting up an "editorial concerns" channel for English Wikipedia, our vastly successful and troublesome child. Mathias Schindler floated the idea after the Microsoft press in the past few days and I repeated the suggestion on Friday.
I can't say I'm having great success or a wave of people going "Hell yes, that's a great idea! I'll volunteer to help monitor that!" Evidently I'm just not using something that the cats think is tuna. HELP NEEDED.
Having an editorial concerns channel is I think an obviously nice idea; how to deal with the likely flood of crap^Wless valid concerns and the lack of a wave of volunteers going "hell yes, I'll watch it" is another matter. How would this remarkable selection of social website experts suggest we attract and keep the volunteers for it? I'm at a loss.
- d.
David Gerard wrote:
On 28/01/07, Florence Devouard anthere@anthere.org wrote:
As decided last august, we set up an advisory group according to resolution http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Advisory_board You'll find the entire list here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Advisory_Board
Excellent selections!
What sort of thing would we bug them with, through what channel?
I'm wondering on the issue of setting up an "editorial concerns" channel for English Wikipedia, our vastly successful and troublesome child. Mathias Schindler floated the idea after the Microsoft press in the past few days and I repeated the suggestion on Friday.
I can't say I'm having great success or a wave of people going "Hell yes, that's a great idea! I'll volunteer to help monitor that!" Evidently I'm just not using something that the cats think is tuna. HELP NEEDED.
Having an editorial concerns channel is I think an obviously nice idea; how to deal with the likely flood of crap^Wless valid concerns and the lack of a wave of volunteers going "hell yes, I'll watch it" is another matter. How would this remarkable selection of social website experts suggest we attract and keep the volunteers for it? I'm at a loss.
- d.
Angela accepted to be the chair of the advisory group. There is for now a mailing list where we can be sure to post and get their attention, without them being flowed by the amount of information coming to that list.
I let it to Angela to see how she prefers to get them involved for community matters. It may be to propose them to join the foundation list. It may be to only tell them to register (so that they can post), but not received the emails (which can be seen on archives, this is what I do myself thanks to thunderbird and gmane). It may be to warn them on the advisory list of a discussion on the foundation which may be of interest to them. It may be to make them get in touch with specific people or specific groups of interest. There are many options there and no reasons to limit ourselves.
I think Angela can make the decision of what she thinks is best depending on circonstances.
The board has already been in contact with several of them. Sometimes the discussion was only through private emails. Once a person joined the board retreat. In another case, we set up a private wiki to work on together. There is no limits to our imagination :-)
ant
The list is excellent. The only mile-wide glaring omission from it that I can think of, is Sunir Shah. What happened? Was he asked and refused a position on the advisory board?
On 1/28/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 28/01/07, Florence Devouard anthere@anthere.org wrote:
As decided last august, we set up an advisory group according to resolution http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Advisory_board You'll find the entire list here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Advisory_Board
Excellent selections!
What sort of thing would we bug them with, through what channel?
I'm wondering on the issue of setting up an "editorial concerns" channel for English Wikipedia, our vastly successful and troublesome child. Mathias Schindler floated the idea after the Microsoft press in the past few days and I repeated the suggestion on Friday.
I can't say I'm having great success or a wave of people going "Hell yes, that's a great idea! I'll volunteer to help monitor that!" Evidently I'm just not using something that the cats think is tuna. HELP NEEDED.
Having an editorial concerns channel is I think an obviously nice idea; how to deal with the likely flood of crap^Wless valid concerns and the lack of a wave of volunteers going "hell yes, I'll watch it" is another matter. How would this remarkable selection of social website experts suggest we attract and keep the volunteers for it? I'm at a loss.
- d.
foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Hoi, There are many people who could make a valuable contribution to this advisory board. You apparently have yours and I do not even know Sunir Shah.There are other people on this board that I do not really know either. I have some people that I would like to see included.
The point is not who is not on it, the point is are the people on this list complementary in stead of all being in the same mould. When this is a great list of people, celebrate them. When there are people who are complementary, suggest them in a nice, even private way. Your indignation does not work for me, quite the contrary.
Thanks, GerardM
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen schreef:
The list is excellent. The only mile-wide glaring omission from it that I can think of, is Sunir Shah. What happened? Was he asked and refused a position on the advisory board?
On 1/28/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 28/01/07, Florence Devouard anthere@anthere.org wrote:
As decided last august, we set up an advisory group according to resolution http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Advisory_board You'll find the entire list here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Advisory_Board
Excellent selections!
What sort of thing would we bug them with, through what channel?
I'm wondering on the issue of setting up an "editorial concerns" channel for English Wikipedia, our vastly successful and troublesome child. Mathias Schindler floated the idea after the Microsoft press in the past few days and I repeated the suggestion on Friday.
I can't say I'm having great success or a wave of people going "Hell yes, that's a great idea! I'll volunteer to help monitor that!" Evidently I'm just not using something that the cats think is tuna. HELP NEEDED.
Having an editorial concerns channel is I think an obviously nice idea; how to deal with the likely flood of crap^Wless valid concerns and the lack of a wave of volunteers going "hell yes, I'll watch it" is another matter. How would this remarkable selection of social website experts suggest we attract and keep the volunteers for it? I'm at a loss.
- d.
foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
On 1/28/07, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi,
The point is not who is not on it, the point is are the people on this list complementary in stead of all being in the same mould. When this is a great list of people, celebrate them. When there are people who are complementary, suggest them in a nice, even private way. Your indignation does not work for me, quite the contrary.
Thanks, GerardM
Hmm. One more indication of the problems of pure text modes of communication. I would have sworn that it would have been obvious when I was indignant. When I am, I usually express myself in strong terms of an expletive nature. My posting about Sunir Shah was purely motivated by curiosity, and thus entirely free of expletives, or even pointed sarcasm. Very emotively neutral curiosity. If you you thought using words like "glaring" and "mile wide" expressed indignation, I assure they were not intended to do so, but to be purely expressive of the objective case of affairs.
-- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]
On 1/28/07, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, When there are people who are complementary, suggest them in a nice, even private way.
Thanks, GerardM
You may have missed the bit in Florences posting, which invited us to be free in discussing other potential additions. I do not see what is not nice about a posting which I explicitly began with stating I thought the list was an excellent one.
-- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]
Ray Saintonge schreef:
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
There are many people who could make a valuable contribution to this advisory board. You apparently have yours and I do not even know Sunir Shah.
He was at Wikimania in Frankfort.
Ec
Hoi, So were you and I, so was Richard Stallman if that is what makes you notable ... Thanks, GerardM
On 1/29/07, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Ray Saintonge schreef:
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
There are many people who could make a valuable contribution to this advisory board. You apparently have yours and I do not even know Sunir Shah.
He was at Wikimania in Frankfort.
Ec
Hoi, So were you and I, so was Richard Stallman if that is what makes you notable ... Thanks, GerardM
Sunir Shah is the (co)founder of Meatball Wiki: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?MeatballWiki ; http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?SunirShah. You can find his Wikimania 2005 presentation details at: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2005_Presentations#Other_Talks. I agree with Jussi-Ville that he could be of great service to the advisory group.
Cormac
Cormac Lawler schreef:
On 1/29/07, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Ray Saintonge schreef:
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
There are many people who could make a valuable contribution to this advisory board. You apparently have yours and I do not even know Sunir Shah.
He was at Wikimania in Frankfort.
Ec
Hoi, So were you and I, so was Richard Stallman if that is what makes you notable ... Thanks, GerardM
Sunir Shah is the (co)founder of Meatball Wiki: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?MeatballWiki ; http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?SunirShah. You can find his Wikimania 2005 presentation details at: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2005_Presentations#Other_Talks. I agree with Jussi-Ville that he could be of great service to the advisory group.
Cormac
Hoi, I have again looked at the website, it gives me a chaotic impression. I have looked at the presentation it is OK, however I am sure that we have people of an equal calibre in our own ranks. My idea of an advisory board is that they have to bring something extra, something fresh. I fail to see what the extra is. To be blunt, to me is seems like a "blast from the past" while we need to see into a future and reach out. Thanks, GerardM
maybe it would be more constructive if we wouldnt stuck to this very person, and the discussion whether he is notable or not have private? Then we could maybe focus more on the issue that is imho more important, the *type* of person that is missing. So not really names, but more the qualities that lack this advisory group. Actually I am somehow missing a bit more input from the communities. Most of the users seem to me (except angela) relative outsiders, please correct me if i'm wrong. Might it be worth evaluating the idea that in some way we should have a user of several parts of the wikimedia communities? And then especially users who are more then just users. So they should be active users, but also bring "a little extra", for example, they combine that with skills on social, legal, economical or ideological area.
Lodewijk
2007/1/29, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Cormac Lawler schreef:
On 1/29/07, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Ray Saintonge schreef:
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
There are many people who could make a valuable contribution to this advisory board. You apparently have yours and I do not even know
Sunir
Shah.
He was at Wikimania in Frankfort.
Ec
Hoi, So were you and I, so was Richard Stallman if that is what makes you notable ... Thanks, GerardM
Sunir Shah is the (co)founder of Meatball Wiki: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?MeatballWiki ; http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?SunirShah. You can find his Wikimania 2005 presentation details at: <
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2005_Presentations#Other_Talks
. I agree with Jussi-Ville that he could be of great service to the advisory group.
Cormac
Hoi, I have again looked at the website, it gives me a chaotic impression. I have looked at the presentation it is OK, however I am sure that we have people of an equal calibre in our own ranks. My idea of an advisory board is that they have to bring something extra, something fresh. I fail to see what the extra is. To be blunt, to me is seems like a "blast from the past" while we need to see into a future and reach out. Thanks, GerardM
foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Hoi, One reason to have an advisory board is to bring outsiders into an organisation that have a distinctly /other /approach. Angela will be very much a linking pin with our organisation; she is deeply connected to the Wikimedia Foundation and has through her activities at Wikia a deep understanding in how to build communities as well as an understanding in using MediaWiki in a commercial environment. Because of her new relative distance to the WMF I am convinced that we are lucky that she has accepted this post.
Another reason why you would want people in an advisory board is because of the network that they bring with them. Kofi Anan, would be one person that would be really important if he would consider us. I do not know if we are audacious enough to ask him :)
I disagree strongly that we should populate an advisory board with people that are already in our community. It would create an other layer of bureaucracy and I am not convinced that we need our own demi-gods. People that ARE within have the option to make themselves useful in many ways. There are plenty of things that do not get done. We talk enough as it is and imho we do not need another talking shop. Thanks, GerardM
effe iets anders schreef:
maybe it would be more constructive if we wouldnt stuck to this very person, and the discussion whether he is notable or not have private? Then we could maybe focus more on the issue that is imho more important, the *type* of person that is missing. So not really names, but more the qualities that lack this advisory group. Actually I am somehow missing a bit more input from the communities. Most of the users seem to me (except angela) relative outsiders, please correct me if i'm wrong. Might it be worth evaluating the idea that in some way we should have a user of several parts of the wikimedia communities? And then especially users who are more then just users. So they should be active users, but also bring "a little extra", for example, they combine that with skills on social, legal, economical or ideological area.
Lodewijk
2007/1/29, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Cormac Lawler schreef:
On 1/29/07, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Ray Saintonge schreef:
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
There are many people who could make a valuable contribution to this advisory board. You apparently have yours and I do not even know
Sunir
Shah.
He was at Wikimania in Frankfort.
Ec
Hoi, So were you and I, so was Richard Stallman if that is what makes you notable ... Thanks, GerardM
Sunir Shah is the (co)founder of Meatball Wiki: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?MeatballWiki ; http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?SunirShah. You can find his Wikimania 2005 presentation details at: <
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2005_Presentations#Other_Talks
. I agree with Jussi-Ville that he could be of great service to the advisory group.
Cormac
Hoi, I have again looked at the website, it gives me a chaotic impression. I have looked at the presentation it is OK, however I am sure that we have people of an equal calibre in our own ranks. My idea of an advisory board is that they have to bring something extra, something fresh. I fail to see what the extra is. To be blunt, to me is seems like a "blast from the past" while we need to see into a future and reach out. Thanks, GerardM
Yes, this is a great list and every single person on it has skills that we need and that will hopefully help us in the future. It is nice to see that the very good idea of the advisory board has taken shape. I am also glad that this list is not closed: as much as I can understand every single choice, the result in itself does IMHO not reflect the international scope of the foundation as much as it should. We have repeatedly seen in the past, how important not only language, but in particular culture is. Thus, I urge the board to consider more people from nonenglishspeaking countries for the advisory board.
Take care,
Philipp
2007/1/29, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Hoi, One reason to have an advisory board is to bring outsiders into an organisation that have a distinctly /other /approach. Angela will be very much a linking pin with our organisation; she is deeply connected to the Wikimedia Foundation and has through her activities at Wikia a deep understanding in how to build communities as well as an understanding in using MediaWiki in a commercial environment. Because of her new relative distance to the WMF I am convinced that we are lucky that she has accepted this post.
Another reason why you would want people in an advisory board is because of the network that they bring with them. Kofi Anan, would be one person that would be really important if he would consider us. I do not know if we are audacious enough to ask him :)
I disagree strongly that we should populate an advisory board with people that are already in our community. It would create an other layer of bureaucracy and I am not convinced that we need our own demi-gods. People that ARE within have the option to make themselves useful in many ways. There are plenty of things that do not get done. We talk enough as it is and imho we do not need another talking shop. Thanks, GerardM
effe iets anders schreef:
maybe it would be more constructive if we wouldnt stuck to this very
person,
and the discussion whether he is notable or not have private? Then we
could
maybe focus more on the issue that is imho more important, the *type* of person that is missing. So not really names, but more the qualities that lack this advisory group. Actually I am somehow missing a bit more input from the communities. Most of the users seem to me (except angela)
relative
outsiders, please correct me if i'm wrong. Might it be worth evaluating
the
idea that in some way we should have a user of several parts of the wikimedia communities? And then especially users who are more then just users. So they should be active users, but also bring "a little extra",
for
example, they combine that with skills on social, legal, economical or ideological area.
Lodewijk
2007/1/29, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Cormac Lawler schreef:
On 1/29/07, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Ray Saintonge schreef:
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> There are many people who could make a valuable contribution to this > advisory board. You apparently have yours and I do not even know >
Sunir
> Shah. > > > > He was at Wikimania in Frankfort.
Ec
Hoi, So were you and I, so was Richard Stallman if that is what makes you notable ... Thanks, GerardM
Sunir Shah is the (co)founder of Meatball Wiki: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?MeatballWiki ; http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?SunirShah. You can find his Wikimania 2005 presentation details at: <
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2005_Presentations#Other_Talks
. I agree with Jussi-Ville that he could be of great service to the advisory group.
Cormac
Hoi, I have again looked at the website, it gives me a chaotic impression. I have looked at the presentation it is OK, however I am sure that we have people of an equal calibre in our own ranks. My idea of an advisory board is that they have to bring something extra, something fresh. I fail to see what the extra is. To be blunt, to me is seems like a "blast from the past" while we need to see into a future and reach out. Thanks, GerardM
foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
On 1/29/07, effe iets anders effeietsanders@gmail.com wrote:
Actually I am somehow missing a bit more input from the communities. Most of the users seem to me (except angela) relative outsiders, please correct me if i'm wrong. Might it be worth evaluating the idea that in some way we should have a user of several parts of the wikimedia communities?
I think there is room for a separate body of user representatives made only of people from the community. Something like the WikiCouncil idea which has been proposed in the past.
The advisory is meant to provide the Board of Trustees with some "outside" perspective which is why most of its members are not a core part of the community - though many of them have had some involvement with Wikimedia before, so it's not like they're complete Wikimedia newbies. :)
Angela
Angela wrote:
On 1/29/07, effe iets anders effeietsanders@gmail.com wrote:
Actually I am somehow missing a bit more input from the communities. Most of the users seem to me (except angela) relative outsiders, please correct me if i'm wrong. Might it be worth evaluating the idea that in some way we should have a user of several parts of the wikimedia communities?
I think there is room for a separate body of user representatives made only of people from the community. Something like the WikiCouncil idea which has been proposed in the past.
The advisory is meant to provide the Board of Trustees with some "outside" perspective which is why most of its members are not a core part of the community - though many of them have had some involvement with Wikimedia before, so it's not like they're complete Wikimedia newbies. :)
While it might be a good idea to ad one or two thoughtful Wikipedians to the Advisory Board, particularly if it chooses to operate a series of committees where direct representation would be an asset. Beyond that I don't see any urgency to having more community members on that Board.
I have always been positive toward the WikiCouncil idea, but I'm afraid that if we make sorting out the issue of democratic representation a precondition for establishing a WikiCouncil it will never happen. If a WikiCouncil is set up finding a solution to that problem should be a high priority item on its agenda. It may be necessary for the first members of the WikiCouncil to be appointed, but a more representative system could be used when it is time to replace these people.
Ec
On 1/29/07, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
To be blunt, to me is seems like a "blast from the past" while we need to see into a future and reach out.
couldn't help thinking of the following anecdote:
some years ago the parliament in the netherlands did tests at (dutch) high school graduation level. the results in dutch language were not good if i recall correctly, but especially in the history test they were exceedingly bad. when asked about the importance of awareness and knowledge of history in his profession, one politician stated: "we are here for the future, not for the past"
best ;-) oscar
On 1/29/07, Cormac Lawler cormaggio@gmail.com wrote:
On 1/29/07, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Ray Saintonge schreef:
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
There are many people who could make a valuable contribution to this advisory board. You apparently have yours and I do not even know
Sunir
Shah.
He was at Wikimania in Frankfort.
Ec
Hoi, So were you and I, so was Richard Stallman if that is what makes you notable ... Thanks, GerardM
Sunir Shah is the (co)founder of Meatball Wiki: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?MeatballWiki ; http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?SunirShah. You can find his Wikimania 2005 presentation details at: < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2005_Presentations#Other_Talks
.
I agree with Jussi-Ville that he could be of great service to the advisory group.
And one of the earliest Wikipedia contributors.
Hoi, Given that Sunir is probably an OK guy, and even that he contributed early in our projects, that still does not demonstrate the added value he has over many of the people that are already in our project. What I was looking for is what he adds to the equation, what I find that he may be a great guy but I do not understand what his added value would be. This complementary value is what you look for in people that are relevant for the advisory board. Thanks, GerardM
The Cunctator schreef:
On 1/29/07, Cormac Lawler cormaggio@gmail.com wrote:
On 1/29/07, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Ray Saintonge schreef:
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
There are many people who could make a valuable contribution to this advisory board. You apparently have yours and I do not even know
Sunir
Shah.
He was at Wikimania in Frankfort.
Ec
Hoi, So were you and I, so was Richard Stallman if that is what makes you notable ... Thanks, GerardM
Sunir Shah is the (co)founder of Meatball Wiki: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?MeatballWiki ; http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?SunirShah. You can find his Wikimania 2005 presentation details at: < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2005_Presentations#Other_Talks
.
I agree with Jussi-Ville that he could be of great service to the advisory group.
And one of the earliest Wikipedia contributors.
The short answer is that he is one of the best people at analyzing and understanding how to construct and manage online communities, particularly wiki projects. IMHO. (But if my claim is true I hope you can see how he would be a very good person to have on the Wikimedia Advisory Board.)
On 1/30/07, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, Given that Sunir is probably an OK guy, and even that he contributed early in our projects, that still does not demonstrate the added value he has over many of the people that are already in our project. What I was looking for is what he adds to the equation, what I find that he may be a great guy but I do not understand what his added value would be. This complementary value is what you look for in people that are relevant for the advisory board. Thanks, GerardM
The Cunctator schreef:
On 1/29/07, Cormac Lawler cormaggio@gmail.com wrote:
On 1/29/07, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Ray Saintonge schreef:
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
There are many people who could make a valuable contribution to this advisory board. You apparently have yours and I do not even know
Sunir
Shah.
He was at Wikimania in Frankfort.
Ec
Hoi, So were you and I, so was Richard Stallman if that is what makes you notable ... Thanks, GerardM
Sunir Shah is the (co)founder of Meatball Wiki: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?MeatballWiki ; http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?SunirShah. You can find his Wikimania 2005 presentation details at: <
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2005_Presentations#Other_Talks
.
I agree with Jussi-Ville that he could be of great service to the advisory group.
And one of the earliest Wikipedia contributors.
foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
The Cunctator wrote:
The short answer is that he is one of the best people at analyzing and understanding how to construct and manage online communities, particularly wiki projects. IMHO. (But if my claim is true I hope you can see how he would be a very good person to have on the Wikimedia Advisory Board.)
Personally, I'm starting to get rather tired of all this "Oh well so-and-so should be on the advisory board", so I will ask plain and simple: Did anyone reply to Anthere's email of November 7th 2006, with subject "[Foundation-l] [Advisory board]: appeal for members suggestion", and *formally* suggest them?
On 1/28/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 28/01/07, Florence Devouard anthere@anthere.org wrote:
What sort of thing would we bug them with, through what channel?
For the topics, see the bios at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Advisory_Board to see what topics would be relevant to each person or the whole group.
I'm not sure on which channel yet. We have a private mailing list, but for that to be read by everyone, it needs to be low-traffic. I wonder if foundation-l should be used and the members of the AB who are on this list can pass over anything relevant, either to the whole group or to individuals. That would prevent the need for a separate list and since everything that should go to the AB is a Foundation matter, it shouldn't be off-topic for here.
I'll add links to everyone's wiki user page when they all have accounts so they can choose to enable email through the wiki if they want to receive private communications from people.
Any other suggestions?
Angela
On 28/01/07, Angela beesley@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure on which channel yet. We have a private mailing list, but for that to be read by everyone, it needs to be low-traffic. I wonder if foundation-l should be used and the members of the AB who are on this list can pass over anything relevant, either to the whole group or to individuals. That would prevent the need for a separate list and since everything that should go to the AB is a Foundation matter, it shouldn't be off-topic for here.
That sounds like a good idea for the moment.
- d.
2007/1/28, Angela beesley@gmail.com:
On 1/28/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 28/01/07, Florence Devouard anthere@anthere.org wrote:
What sort of thing would we bug them with, through what channel?
For the topics, see the bios at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Advisory_Board to see what topics would be relevant to each person or the whole group. (...)
Any other suggestions?
Angela
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Well, a photo next to the bio's would be marvellous :) That way the community can discover a face with the name. it's not exactly necessarily, but would just be a nice thing :)
lodewijk
Florence Devouard wrote:
As decided last august, we set up an advisory group according to resolution http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Advisory_board
You'll find the entire list here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Advisory_Board
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Congratulations and thanks to these people for agreeing to volunteer their time and effort! I assume that they did agree and weren't forced into it at gunpoint, right? :)
Hoi,. For several of these notable people, there are articles on Wikipedia.. Some of them have no photo yet, some of the photos could be better quality.. In the Netherlands we want more quality pictures of famous people. We even have a "werkgroep" for this.. Being a member of this werkgroep, I would like to urge our new advisory group members to provide us with a few photos.. Photos that will do them justice as advocates of an organisation that is very much about free content :)
Thanks, GerardM
Florence Devouard schreef:
As decided last august, we set up an advisory group according to resolution http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Advisory_board
You'll find the entire list here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Advisory_Board
Welcome to
Angela Beesley (eh !) Ward Cunningham Heather Ford Melissa Hagemann Danny Hillis Mitch Kapor Joris Komen Rebecca MacKinnon Wayne Mackintosh Benjamin Mako Hill Erin McKean Trevor Nielson Achal Prabhala Jay Rosen Clay Shirky Peter Suber Raoul Weiler Ethan Zuckermanwho have agreed to give a bit of their time and expertise, to help us navigate in the difficult waters of collaborative software, free licensing, free speech, education for all, governance, sustainability models... We really appreciate.
How did we chose these people ? Either because they were already frequently in touch with us, or because we thought their experience could help. "We" is both the board and the community, as the board also contacted some of the people whose names showed up when I asked help on this list. Is that list closed ? Of course not. Please feel free to discuss further additions that could be necessary in the future.
Florence Devouard
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