left the project if they had been treated the same way. My side of the equation is that this needs to stop for any future cooperation to be viable. Conflicts should be resolved in private first before they are carried out on a public mailing list.
Usually conflicts become public because one of the sides feels he doesn't have to respond privately. Same like the conflict between me and GerardM which raged on privately, it didn't get solved. I took it public and unfortunately it still isn't solved.
Waerth/Walter
Walter van Kalken wrote:
left the project if they had been treated the same way. My side of the equation is that this needs to stop for any future cooperation to be viable. Conflicts should be resolved in private first before they are carried out on a public mailing list.
Usually conflicts become public because one of the sides feels he doesn't have to respond privately. Same like the conflict between me and GerardM which raged on privately, it didn't get solved. I took it public and unfortunately it still isn't solved.
Waerth/Walter
Hoi Walter, There is not much to discuss when you state publicly that you do not trust me. Nobody in the nl-wikipedia community has given as much information on what I am doing. You have said things that are not acceptable to me. You expressed for instance that we should stop the Kennisnet partnership because I am involved in that. I have mentioned an idea of yours and I acknowledged it as such that was discussed in a brainstorm session at Kennisnet and was accused of stealing your idea.
When you spout this kind of nonsense you will not get a solution. You have to appreciate that I am doing a lot of work and I am not beholden to anyone. Yes, I very much communicate about what I do. You accuse me of not "listening" to the community and what I hear is that I have to do things in the way that you want me to. After Wikimania, I was the only one who wrote about this event in the Dutch language, there were many people from the Netherlands.
I wished you opened your eyes and look at what I do and what issues that I raise. You will find that they have little to do with the nl-wikipedia itself and that I am more about other things. I care deeply for Commons, I care deeply for Wiktionary, I care deeply that information will be free. People in the Netherlands are only 16.000.000, the expertice Kennisnet builds in using the Wiki is relevant to all people. A great lexicological resource will be there for everyone. A localised Commons means Free images for everyone.
From my perspective I would love to see more of your great ideas like the scholarship for students, the idea of having a better way of infoming on statistics. However, your continued sniping that we have conflict will not solve a thing. If you want to cooperate with me, if you want to talk with me you need to do just that. This ignoring me like you have done over the last few months does not help. It is easy to understand that you do not read everything what I write because you do not have an interest. If you however decide that I must be up to no good because I do not contunually inform you or the nl-wikipedia crowd about it than you are very much mistaken. I am very accessible, you can find me on IRC, on skype people and can send me mail. If you do not read what I write and if you do not want to ask, who is to blame for the problem that you have with me but yourself ??
Thanks, GerardM
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