You can find that at this link. http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/wikibooks-wikimedia-foundation/1102082833?e… I think anybody can sell well organized ebook on commercially. But the author is not the Wimedia Foundation exactly. I think the seller eM publication's business is illegitimate. It is a trademark infringement if the foundation did not permit the use. Cheol 2012/3/5 RYU Cheol <rcheol(a)gmail.com> _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

So, correct WMF is not the author and this should be changed. Listing people as editors of a book using material from WP or any other project is acceptable. The terms of use and licenses simply require the appropriate attribution and you'd need to buy the book to confirm if this has or hasn't been done. However my view on this is that this reuse was exactly what was intended when the decision was made to make the content freely available and we aren't in a position to complain now. If this wasn't intended then Jimbo could have started WP with a "no commercial use" license. Sure it seems a rip off to us but there are always going to be people who buy stuff they could get for free - bottled water anyone? Personally I'd like to see someone set up a pay wall version of WP that has strict content control making it available to those groups that won't trust or use WP because of its free-for-all nature. Someone will make money but more knowledge will be spread which I think outweighs the "evil" of charging a fee... Neil / QuiteUnusual@Wikibooks -----Original Message----- From: Sarah <slimvirgin(a)gmail.com> Sender: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 19:27:39 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List<foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Reply-To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Author "Wikimedia Foundation" at Barnes&Nobles  shop on Nook I also wish the Wikimedia Foundation would do something about these books. Here is one by me, or by Wikipedia, but NOT by Frederic P. Miller, Agnes F. Vandome (Editor), and John McBrewster (Editor). http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/marshalsea-frederic-p-miller/1028062431?ean… The byline apart, it's disturbing that someone might be conned into paying $77 for it, when they can download it for free. Sarah On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:24 PM, RYU Cheol <rcheol(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You can find that at this link. > http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/wikibooks-wikimedia-foundation/1102082833?e… > > > I think anybody can sell well organized ebook on commercially. > But the author is not the Wimedia Foundation exactly. I think the seller eM > publication's business is illegitimate. It is a trademark infringement if > the foundation did not permit the use. > > Cheol > > 2012/3/5 RYU Cheol <rcheol(a)gmail.com> > >> Hi, all! >> >> I searched "Wikimedia Foundation" by chance and a lot of Wikibooks, >> possibly collections of Wikipedia articles. The author of the books is >> "Wikimedia Foundation." I don't think Wikimedia Foundation is selling the >> e-books for 2~3 dollars, and I think it is a fraud. Many buyer commented >> that they want their money back. >> >> I think the Foundation needs to find out the case and alert the bookshop. >> >> Cheol >>

John Vandenberg, 06/03/2012 10:23: The second is their problem, but the first is clearly untrue and illegal. Luckily there are only five such items at that link, while the others are more truthful (including some linked by others in this thread, although they seem to mention "Wikipedia" on the cover as a sign of approval), but these five must be corrected. The WMF legals should be made aware of it, if they're not yet. In this case a letter to B&N probably suffices. Nemo _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

So, correct WMF is not the author and this should be changed. Listing people as editors of a book using material from WP or any other project is acceptable. The terms of use and licenses simply require the appropriate attribution and you'd need to buy the book to confirm if this has or hasn't been done. However my view on this is that this reuse was exactly what was intended when the decision was made to make the content freely available and we aren't in a position to complain now. If this wasn't intended then Jimbo could have started WP with a "no commercial use" license. Sure it seems a rip off to us but there are always going to be people who buy stuff they could get for free - bottled water anyone? Personally I'd like to see someone set up a pay wall version of WP that has strict content control making it available to those groups that won't trust or use WP because of its free-for-all nature. Someone will make money but more knowledge will be spread which I think outweighs the "evil" of charging a fee... Neil / QuiteUnusual@Wikibooks -----Original Message----- From: Sarah<slimvirgin(a)gmail.com> Sender: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 19:27:39 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List<foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Reply-To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List<foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Author "Wikimedia Foundation" at Barnes&Nobles shop on Nook I also wish the Wikimedia Foundation would do something about these books. Here is one by me, or by Wikipedia, but NOT by Frederic P. Miller, Agnes F. Vandome (Editor), and John McBrewster (Editor). http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/marshalsea-frederic-p-miller/1028062431?ean… The byline apart, it's disturbing that someone might be conned into paying $77 for it, when they can download it for free. Sarah On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:24 PM, RYU Cheol<rcheol(a)gmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l