James, that video does Not seem to have any connection to the Wikimedia movement. (I checked the credits, but didn't watch the whole song). Please don't distract the hundreds of subscribers here with irrelevant content. Bare links without any explanation are also an anti-pattern to avoid. Thanks.
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:13 PM, James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=150&v=Eijc2tGe-zM
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My mistake, there is a one line reference to Wikipedia in the lyrics. (The time_continue parameter didn't work on my first play through, but I checked again to be sure and then I heard the reference.) Sorry for the mistake. My other points stand. </grump>
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:29 PM, quiddity pandiculation@gmail.com wrote:
James, that video does Not seem to have any connection to the Wikimedia movement. (I checked the credits, but didn't watch the whole song). Please don't distract the hundreds of subscribers here with irrelevant content. Bare links without any explanation are also an anti-pattern to avoid. Thanks.
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What makes me happy today: the WikidataCon, the first international conference dedicated to the WIkidata community, is about to start, and will be live-streamed :)
The link to access the livestream is: http://streaming.media.ccc.de/ wikidatacon2017
The conference will be broadcasted from today at *11:00 (UTC+2)*, starting with the talk "State of the project" by Lydia Pintscher. The content of the *rooms A, A1, A2 and A3* will be streamed, unless the speaker requests not to be recorded.
You can find the program here https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/ Wikidata:WikidataCon_2017/Program/Saturday
The videos will also be available later under CC-BY-SA: I'll share the links with you as soon as possible.
Best,
On 28 October 2017 at 03:36, quiddity pandiculation@gmail.com wrote:
My mistake, there is a one line reference to Wikipedia in the lyrics. (The time_continue parameter didn't work on my first play through, but I checked again to be sure and then I heard the reference.) Sorry for the mistake. My other points stand. </grump>
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:29 PM, quiddity pandiculation@gmail.com wrote:
James, that video does Not seem to have any connection to the Wikimedia movement. (I checked the credits, but didn't watch the whole song). Please don't distract the hundreds of subscribers here with irrelevant
content.
Bare links without any explanation are also an anti-pattern to avoid. Thanks.
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:13 PM, James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com
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Thank you Léa for the link,
I seize the opportunity to also ask anyone who have links related to Wikidata and the choice of CC0 as license for this project.
What Wikidata already achieved and its further possibilities is very attractive to me. But so far CC0 is a far more repulsive point. Now maybe with more documentation I might change my mind, I think at least I should make some research to have a more informed opinion on the topic. So any documentation is welcome on how it was decided, what have been the misc. pros/cons highlighted, how was the community involved (or not) in the decision.
Also, I heard last week during Wikiconvention Francophone that there are some actions on sister projects that generate content on Wikidata, without informing the user it does so. Afterward I was explained with more precise statements, saying that it was things like syslogs stored in Wikidata. I would like to be sure:
* what actions on sister projects might generate publication of what kind of data on Wikidata * and that legal enquiries have been done about that. So we are certain that none of this publication might create legal threats. As I understand it, the user action end up with published (unlike raw syslog) data under a license which wasn't explicitly agreed. Or hopefully, I was misinformed, or misunderstood something.
Thanks again for the link, I think I will watch the conference about Wiktionary with much interest and profit other records to learn more about the project.
Cheers
Le 28/10/2017 à 09:31, Léa Lacroix a écrit :
What makes me happy today: the WikidataCon, the first international conference dedicated to the WIkidata community, is about to start, and will be live-streamed :)
The link to access the livestream is: http://streaming.media.ccc.de/ wikidatacon2017
The conference will be broadcasted from today at *11:00 (UTC+2)*, starting with the talk "State of the project" by Lydia Pintscher. The content of the *rooms A, A1, A2 and A3* will be streamed, unless the speaker requests not to be recorded.
You can find the program here https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/ Wikidata:WikidataCon_2017/Program/Saturday
The videos will also be available later under CC-BY-SA: I'll share the links with you as soon as possible.
Best,
On 28 October 2017 at 03:36, quiddity pandiculation@gmail.com wrote:
My mistake, there is a one line reference to Wikipedia in the lyrics. (The time_continue parameter didn't work on my first play through, but I checked again to be sure and then I heard the reference.) Sorry for the mistake. My other points stand. </grump>
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:29 PM, quiddity pandiculation@gmail.com wrote:
James, that video does Not seem to have any connection to the Wikimedia movement. (I checked the credits, but didn't watch the whole song). Please don't distract the hundreds of subscribers here with irrelevant
content.
Bare links without any explanation are also an anti-pattern to avoid. Thanks.
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:13 PM, James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com
wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=150&v=Eijc2tGe-zM
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Hi,
Here are a few places where the choice of CC0 for Wikidata was discussed:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#Is_CC_the_right_license_for_da...
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2012-12-18a
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata//2012-April/thread.html#146
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-12-02/Op-ed (including the comments below)
Best, Andreas
On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 1:10 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz < psychoslave@culture-libre.org> wrote:
Thank you Léa for the link,
I seize the opportunity to also ask anyone who have links related to Wikidata and the choice of CC0 as license for this project.
What Wikidata already achieved and its further possibilities is very attractive to me. But so far CC0 is a far more repulsive point. Now maybe with more documentation I might change my mind, I think at least I should make some research to have a more informed opinion on the topic. So any documentation is welcome on how it was decided, what have been the misc. pros/cons highlighted, how was the community involved (or not) in the decision.
Also, I heard last week during Wikiconvention Francophone that there are some actions on sister projects that generate content on Wikidata, without informing the user it does so. Afterward I was explained with more precise statements, saying that it was things like syslogs stored in Wikidata. I would like to be sure:
- what actions on sister projects might generate publication of what kind of data on Wikidata
- and that legal enquiries have been done about that. So we are certain that none of this publication might create legal threats. As I understand it, the user action end up with published (unlike raw syslog) data under a license which wasn't explicitly agreed. Or hopefully, I was misinformed, or misunderstood something.
Thanks again for the link, I think I will watch the conference about Wiktionary with much interest and profit other records to learn more about the project.
Cheers
Le 28/10/2017 à 09:31, Léa Lacroix a écrit :
What makes me happy today: the WikidataCon, the first international conference dedicated to the WIkidata community, is about to start, and will be live-streamed :)
The link to access the livestream is: http://streaming.media.ccc.de/ wikidatacon2017
The conference will be broadcasted from today at *11:00 (UTC+2)*, starting with the talk "State of the project" by Lydia Pintscher. The content of the *rooms A, A1, A2 and A3* will be streamed, unless the speaker requests not to be recorded.
You can find the program here https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/ Wikidata:WikidataCon_2017/Program/Saturday
The videos will also be available later under CC-BY-SA: I'll share the links with you as soon as possible.
Best,
On 28 October 2017 at 03:36, quiddity pandiculation@gmail.com wrote:
My mistake, there is a one line reference to Wikipedia in the lyrics.
(The time_continue parameter didn't work on my first play through, but I checked again to be sure and then I heard the reference.) Sorry for the mistake. My other points stand. </grump>
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:29 PM, quiddity pandiculation@gmail.com wrote:
James, that video does Not seem to have any connection to the Wikimedia movement. (I checked the credits, but didn't watch the whole song). Please don't distract the hundreds of subscribers here with irrelevant
content.
Bare links without any explanation are also an anti-pattern to avoid. Thanks.
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:13 PM, James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com
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Just out of curiosity, does anyone else remember the controversy from 2010?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/pda/2010/aug/11/newport-state-of-mind-yout...
I was happy that YouTube put the video back as a protected derivative work, but posting it to this list apparently made them take it down again. I would normally not be made happy by that, but in this instance it makes me happy because it's a perfect opening to ask Google to petition the Copyright Royalty Board to adjust the compulsory royalties so that distribution to artists falls i. The same incidence as it did in the 1970s, prior to the advent of mass consumer copying, when artists, authors, and performers earned about three times the median of what they do today, and the top publishing conglomerates earned proportionally less.
If this something the Foundation can support?
On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:36 AM quiddity pandiculation@gmail.com wrote:
My mistake, there is a one line reference to Wikipedia in the lyrics. (The time_continue parameter didn't work on my first play through, but I checked again to be sure and then I heard the reference.) Sorry for the mistake. My other points stand. </grump>
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:29 PM, quiddity pandiculation@gmail.com wrote:
James, that video does Not seem to have any connection to the Wikimedia movement. (I checked the credits, but didn't watch the whole song). Please don't distract the hundreds of subscribers here with irrelevant
content.
Bare links without any explanation are also an anti-pattern to avoid. Thanks.
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:13 PM, James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com
wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=150&v=Eijc2tGe-zM
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