Good example.
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Entire library journal editorial board resigns, citing 'crisis of conscience' after death of Aaron Swartz
In a dramatic show of support for the open access movement, the editor-in-chief and entire editorial board of the Journal of Library Administration announced their resignation last week. In a letter to contributors, the board singled out a conflict with owners over the journal's licensing terms, which stripped authors of almost all claim to ownership of their work.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/26/4149752/library-journal-resigns-for-open-a...
Um abc B.
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it seems that CEO of taylor & francis, Roger Horton [2], wanted to charge nearly 3000 USD to publish an article accessible without paywall in their "journal of library administration" [0]. they belong to informa, with its CEO, Peter Rigby [1].
would 3000 usd in future be then a fair price the wikimedia movement should offer scientific authors and reviewing groups to publish an article as cc-by-sa? i was trying to get some information to calculate if this number does make any sense [3][4][5][6][7] * 15'000 - 25'000 peer reviewed journals * 1'300'000 peer reviewed papers published a year * 3.5 % of them open available, further 4.6 % after some embargo period * 4'000 publishers * 2'200'000 books published a year * 2012 reed elsevier numbers: * total revenue: $9bn * profit: £2bn * revenue scientific publications: £3 bn * electronic revenue: 54% * user&subscription revenue: 70% * 30'000 people * 2011 informa / taylor francis numbers: * total revenue $2 bn * profit $511 m * publishing business 54% of total revenue * publishing business 69% of profit * 67% of publishing revenues is through subscriptions * part of it academic information (AI) * 25% of groups revenue * 35% of groups profit * 20% of groups employees (<1600, out of 8300) * 1'600 academic journals * 3'500 new books published
this would mean, if one paper costs $3'000 * 1'300'000 = 3'900'000'000 ... the peer reviewed scientific publishing market would be a $4bn market in 2013. 2003 the guardian reported the "scientific publishing market" worth £4.5bn. [8] and, it would mean 1 person at a publisher works full time for one academic journal published. "open access" et al is listed as "external risk" e.g. in reed elseviers annual report. profit in the academic information domain seems to be > 30% of the revenue.
[0] http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcampus/journals-editorial-board-resigns-in-p... [1] http://www.informa.com/Who-We-Are/Board-of-Directors/Peter-Rigby/ [2] https://twitter.com/RogerGHorton [3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2909426/ [4] http://informationr.net/ir/14-1/paper391.html [5] http://www.worldometers.info/books/ [6] http://reporting.reedelsevier.com/media/174016/reed_elsevier_ar_2012.pdf [7] http://www.informa.com/Documents/Investor%20Relations/Reports/2011/AnnualRep... [8] http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2003/dec/12/houseofcommons.research
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga < everton.alvarenga@okfn.org> wrote:
Good example.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Barbara Dieu beeonline@gmail.com Date: 2013/3/27 Subject: [REA] Crisis of conscience To: rea-lista@googlegroups.com
Entire library journal editorial board resigns, citing 'crisis of conscience' after death of Aaron Swartz
In a dramatic show of support for the open access movement, the editor-in-chief and entire editorial board of the Journal of Library Administration announced their resignation last week. In a letter to contributors, the board singled out a conflict with owners over the journal's licensing terms, which stripped authors of almost all claim to ownership of their work.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/26/4149752/library-journal-resigns-for-open-a...
Um abc B.
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hi,
as far as I know, these prices are not established basing on the cost side, but the opportunity to charge scholars (who can often justify 3k expense in a larger grant budget). All this business is quite shady and despicable in many cases (when the publishers do not offer anything in exchange, barely support the publication process and the journal, etc.), but in some cases there is a professional support at least.
best,
dj
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.comwrote:
it seems that CEO of taylor & francis, Roger Horton [2], wanted to charge nearly 3000 USD to publish an article accessible without paywall in their "journal of library administration" [0]. they belong to informa, with its CEO, Peter Rigby [1].
would 3000 usd in future be then a fair price the wikimedia movement should offer scientific authors and reviewing groups to publish an article as cc-by-sa? i was trying to get some information to calculate if this number does make any sense [3][4][5][6][7]
- 15'000 - 25'000 peer reviewed journals
- 1'300'000 peer reviewed papers published a year
- 3.5 % of them open available, further 4.6 % after some embargo period
- 4'000 publishers
- 2'200'000 books published a year
- 2012 reed elsevier numbers:
- total revenue: $9bn
- profit: £2bn
- revenue scientific publications: £3 bn
- electronic revenue: 54%
- user&subscription revenue: 70%
- 30'000 people
- 2011 informa / taylor francis numbers:
- total revenue $2 bn
- profit $511 m
- publishing business 54% of total revenue
- publishing business 69% of profit
- 67% of publishing revenues is through subscriptions
- part of it academic information (AI)
- 25% of groups revenue
- 35% of groups profit
- 20% of groups employees (<1600, out of 8300)
- 1'600 academic journals
- 3'500 new books published
this would mean, if one paper costs $3'000 * 1'300'000 = 3'900'000'000 ... the peer reviewed scientific publishing market would be a $4bn market in 2013. 2003 the guardian reported the "scientific publishing market" worth £4.5bn. [8] and, it would mean 1 person at a publisher works full time for one academic journal published. "open access" et al is listed as "external risk" e.g. in reed elseviers annual report. profit in the academic information domain seems to be > 30% of the revenue.
[0]
http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcampus/journals-editorial-board-resigns-in-p... [1] http://www.informa.com/Who-We-Are/Board-of-Directors/Peter-Rigby/ [2] https://twitter.com/RogerGHorton [3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2909426/ [4] http://informationr.net/ir/14-1/paper391.html [5] http://www.worldometers.info/books/ [6] http://reporting.reedelsevier.com/media/174016/reed_elsevier_ar_2012.pdf [7]
http://www.informa.com/Documents/Investor%20Relations/Reports/2011/AnnualRep... [8] http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2003/dec/12/houseofcommons.research
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga < everton.alvarenga@okfn.org> wrote:
Good example.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Barbara Dieu beeonline@gmail.com Date: 2013/3/27 Subject: [REA] Crisis of conscience To: rea-lista@googlegroups.com
Entire library journal editorial board resigns, citing 'crisis of conscience' after death of Aaron Swartz
In a dramatic show of support for the open access movement, the editor-in-chief and entire editorial board of the Journal of Library Administration announced their resignation last week. In a letter to contributors, the board singled out a conflict with owners over the journal's licensing terms, which stripped authors of almost all claim to ownership of their work.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/26/4149752/library-journal-resigns-for-open-a...
Um abc B.
-- Barbara Dieu http://barbaradieu.com http://beespace.net
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The entire editorial board resigned over the way the publisher was doing it, and that it indicates the true meaning of such a precedent.
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak darekj@alk.edu.plwrote:
hi,
as far as I know, these prices are not established basing on the cost side, but the opportunity to charge scholars (who can often justify 3k expense in a larger grant budget). All this business is quite shady and despicable in many cases (when the publishers do not offer anything in exchange, barely support the publication process and the journal, etc.), but in some cases there is a professional support at least.
best,
dj
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner@gmail.com
wrote:
it seems that CEO of taylor & francis, Roger Horton [2], wanted to charge nearly 3000 USD to publish an article accessible without paywall in their "journal of library administration" [0]. they belong to informa, with its CEO, Peter Rigby [1].
would 3000 usd in future be then a fair price the wikimedia movement
should
offer scientific authors and reviewing groups to publish an article as cc-by-sa? i was trying to get some information to calculate if this
number
does make any sense [3][4][5][6][7]
- 15'000 - 25'000 peer reviewed journals
- 1'300'000 peer reviewed papers published a year
- 3.5 % of them open available, further 4.6 % after some embargo period
- 4'000 publishers
- 2'200'000 books published a year
- 2012 reed elsevier numbers:
- total revenue: $9bn
- profit: £2bn
- revenue scientific publications: £3 bn
- electronic revenue: 54%
- user&subscription revenue: 70%
- 30'000 people
- 2011 informa / taylor francis numbers:
- total revenue $2 bn
- profit $511 m
- publishing business 54% of total revenue
- publishing business 69% of profit
- 67% of publishing revenues is through subscriptions
- part of it academic information (AI)
- 25% of groups revenue
- 35% of groups profit
- 20% of groups employees (<1600, out of 8300)
- 1'600 academic journals
- 3'500 new books published
this would mean, if one paper costs $3'000 * 1'300'000 = 3'900'000'000
...
the peer reviewed scientific publishing market would be a $4bn market in 2013. 2003 the guardian reported the "scientific publishing market" worth £4.5bn. [8] and, it would mean 1 person at a publisher works full time
for
one academic journal published. "open access" et al is listed as
"external
risk" e.g. in reed elseviers annual report. profit in the academic information domain seems to be > 30% of the revenue.
[0]
http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcampus/journals-editorial-board-resigns-in-p...
[1] http://www.informa.com/Who-We-Are/Board-of-Directors/Peter-Rigby/ [2] https://twitter.com/RogerGHorton [3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2909426/ [4] http://informationr.net/ir/14-1/paper391.html [5] http://www.worldometers.info/books/ [6] http://reporting.reedelsevier.com/media/174016/reed_elsevier_ar_2012.pdf [7]
http://www.informa.com/Documents/Investor%20Relations/Reports/2011/AnnualRep...
[8]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2003/dec/12/houseofcommons.research
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga < everton.alvarenga@okfn.org> wrote:
Good example.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Barbara Dieu beeonline@gmail.com Date: 2013/3/27 Subject: [REA] Crisis of conscience To: rea-lista@googlegroups.com
Entire library journal editorial board resigns, citing 'crisis of conscience' after death of Aaron Swartz
In a dramatic show of support for the open access movement, the editor-in-chief and entire editorial board of the Journal of Library Administration announced their resignation last week. In a letter to contributors, the board singled out a conflict with owners over the journal's licensing terms, which stripped authors of almost all claim to ownership of their work.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/26/4149752/library-journal-resigns-for-open-a...
Um abc B.
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