i started [[Metapub]] at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metapub

hoping to have some more to-the-point on-topic discussions, as well as having a more or less central page on meta for focussing attention. it hopefully will also take some load of the lists, as there are so many to which not all are subscribed.

if it helps to make meta more intellegible or accessable it already served its purpose imho.

oscar