Christiano et al,
re-reading my last mail: I must agree, it sounds silly as the intended
sarcasm combined with my own opinion, which normally isn't very NPOV itself,
didn't quite come out. Maybe because I was writing it sitting on the train
;-)
Enjoy,
Ian
[[User:Poeloq]]
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:19 AM, Christiano Moreschi <
moreschiwikiman(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Oh, don't be silly. This is the flaming mailing list. NPOV doesn't apply
here. We can all mouth off about the PRC as much as we like, so long as it's
reasonably on-topic. Discussion is never NPOV, nor should it be.
CM
Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:06:57 +0200
From: poeloq(a)gmail.com
To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Chinese Wikipedia unblocked in Mainland China
Hey,
let's keep this discussion NPOV Wikipedia-style - especially when
talking
about a country that is being potrayed in the
media as the sleeping evil
giant on the one hand and the next world superpower (and hope) by the
others.
It is correct, that many things in the People's Republic of China may not
be
dealt with in the same way as the West / the free
world, but let's not
start
repeating obvious propaganda messages and
statements of the other
extreme.
In regards to the subject at hand, I'm not sure what the reason for
unblocking is and the Olympics are not necessarily the reason for
_everything_ happening in the PR at the moment. I know my fair bit on the
GWC topic and I am fairly certain that blocking is cheaper and more
effective than unblocking, disregardless of if they are tracking who is
looking at what, when, why and how.
Ian
[[User:Poeloq]]
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Dan Rosenthal wrote:
> Probably cheaper too. You gotta pay all the spooks monitoring people
(and
> the snatch and grab teams kidnapping them,
and the interrogators etc.).
All
> that money could be used for more important
things (like bribes, and
lining
corrupt
officials pockets).
-dan
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Gregory Maxwell
wrote:
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Ian A. Holton
wrote:
> Ting, confirmation of the unblock? I can confirm this. I have a server
in
> Beijing which had access, my friends in
Beijing have access and I can
also
> confirm that access to Wikipedia, both English and Chinese, was
unblocked
in
> Huludao (Liaoning Province) as of today.
[snip]
Perhaps it's just become considered better to allow access then track
who reads what. :-/
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